If a car is cat d etc. wud this be declared on any documents e.g. log book?
Mark, if you're Focus has been written off and you are selling it and fail to mention such details, then yeah, imo it makes you a total c**t.
There's two Mk2 V6's on piston heads for under £15k now... they aren't listed as being written off either, so selling one for £14k and not declaring it's a ringer is asking for a kicking off the newly duped owner. Then again, anyone that doesn't HPI a car like that is asking for trouble.
Mark, if you're Focus has been written off and you are selling it and fail to mention such details, then yeah, imo it makes you a total c**t.
There's two Mk2 V6's on piston heads for under £15k now... they aren't listed as being written off either, so selling one for £14k and not declaring it's a ringer is asking for a kicking off the newly duped owner. Then again, anyone that doesn't HPI a car like that is asking for trouble.
At what point is the line drawn?
I mean, I bumped up a kerb the other day, which has probably knocked my tracking out, but my tyres have yet to show signs of uneven wear.
If I sold my car without stating that in the advert or specifically drawing attention to it, I'm being out of order?
Let's say there was a cigarette burn in the carpet - and you don't tell the buyer, they don't notice it, pay you an agreed price, and then drive away - only to discover it a week down the line. Is that out of order too?
Can everyone who is criticising Adam put their hand on their heart and state with total conviction that they have never sold a car having knowingly withheld information that would affect the car's value?
I doubt it.
Put it this way I personally wouldn't do it.
So what if he wants to make a few extra quid?
So what if he wants to make a few extra quid?
How would you feel if you found out your car was cat D and you'd paid full whack for it?
Pissed off? Bit of a mug?
or
Thats ok, he was only trying to make money?
he paid £8k for the car....then tried to sell it on pistonheads as a non cat-d for about £18k i think...
it was me that posted it on here :rasp: the advert was removed shortly afterwards...ooopsy
Caveat emptor is an often used term that seems to be conveniently overlooked in Adam's case.
So what if he wants to make a few extra quid?
How would you feel if you found out your car was cat D and you'd paid full whack for it?
Pissed off? Bit of a mug?
or
Thats ok, he was only trying to make money?
Or...maybe I should have HPI checked it before parting with £10k+ of my own money. He could have told me, maybe he should have told me, but ultimately it's my responsibility to be happy that I'm paying a price relevant to what I'm getting. Countless people in this thread have said you'd need your head examined to pay for a car without HPI first.
Caveat emptor is an often used term that seems to be conveniently overlooked in Adam's case.
If the buyer asks 'has it been written off' or 'is it on the register' then the seller must, by law tell them.
If the buyer doesn't ask the question, the seller is under no obligation to tell them.
(it still makes you a c**t imo, but your not breaking any laws!)
Imho the fact Adam tried to sell his V6 on Pistonheads a while ago without mentioning it's a cat D, is totally irrelevant now.
Imho the fact Adam tried to sell his V6 on Pistonheads a while ago without mentioning it's a cat D, is totally irrelevant now.
Spot on.
The only thing that should now be up for discussion (and as asked by the original poster) is, whether the car is worth what Adam is asking for it. This should obviously be based on whether the repairs were done properly, which of course can be checked easily enough.
Imho the fact Adam tried to sell his V6 on Pistonheads a while ago without mentioning it's a cat D, is totally irrelevant now. Only Adam knows whether that was intentional or not and should not be up for discussion.
The simple fact is, he is now offering his car for sale as a cat D and is asking for £14k for it. The only thing that should now be up for discussion (and as asked by the original poster) is, whether the car is worth what Adam is asking for it. This should obviously be based on whether the repairs were done properly, which of course can be checked easily enough.
I am pretty sure that Adam will be expecting any potential buyer to haggle a little over the price, we all know the golden rule, 'NEVER pay the full asking price'.
The only fair advice I can give to you lYo8 is; ignore all the b****cks about what Adam may or may not have tried to do in the past and just concentrate on what he is offering now. If you are seriously interested in his car, go along and take a look at it, take someone that knows about them with you (if you don't), and check that the repairs have been carried out correctly. If all seems well and you are still interested, then do your haggling with Adam. End of story really I think.
How would you feel if you found out your car was cat D and you'd paid full whack for it?
Pissed off? Bit of a mug?
or
Thats ok, he was only trying to make money?
I am talking after he has mentioned it. Just because he bought it for 8k or whatever why should he sell it at the same price when a Cat D v6 is worth more than £8k?!
Or...maybe I should have HPI checked it before parting with £10k+ of my own money. He could have told me, maybe he should have told me, but ultimately it's my responsibility to be happy that I'm paying a price relevant to what I'm getting. Countless people in this thread have said you'd need your head examined to pay for a car without HPI first.
Caveat emptor is an often used term that seems to be conveniently overlooked in Adam's case.
See my 'Bit of a mug' comment.
Thing is if people were honest there would be no need for the HPI check.
At the end of the day though the OP started this thread knowing full well the car is cat D. So there was'nt really a need to drag Subways name through the mud again!
Spot on.
So if you went to a restraunt and the food was s**t would you go back? No f**king way
So if you went to a restraunt and the food was s**t would you go back? No f**king way
LOL!
Thats not the same thing. And I can't be bothered to explain it to you
Everyone on here has driven down the price of Clios - FACT. Whenever a For Sale thread comes up I remember a time when everyone used to say 'I think you are asking too much etc'.
everyone on here wants something for nothing
Everyone on here has driven down the price of Clios - FACT. Whenever a For Sale thread comes up I remember a time when everyone used to say 'I think you are asking too much etc'.
Yup never a truer word spoken than with that comment. everyone on here wants something for nothing
LOL!
Thats not the same thing. And I can't be bothered to explain it to you
Its a anology, a comparison. If some prick sells you a write off and does not tell you, you lose out simple as that and some one prepared to con you out of your hard earned cash is a c**t in my book.
Its a anology, a comparison. If some prick sells you a write off and does not tell you, you lose out simple as that and some one prepared to con you out of your hard earned cash is a c**t in my book.
Its a crap analogy. It would only work if in the past I had bought a cat D car from Subway without being aware. Then I found out. And then I went back and bought another car from him.
Simple as that.
Yup never a truer word spoken than with that comment. everyone on here wants something for nothing
That is soooo true and it's because we are members of a club, and alot of people expect sellers to sell them cheap to club members. This is why if I ever decided to sell my Clio (which I can't see happening), I would not sell it on here as I would not get what it is worth for it. I'd put it on Autotrader, not only would I get what it's worth, but it would sell prtetty quickly too. It's a shame as alot of members would love to see their cars staying in the club, but realistically this is becoming harder and harder.