supercharger?

[d4ve86]

Its super tight, generating belt sufficient wrap and rigidity are all issues.

Not really willing to give anything away, but mount kits will be available if people want to do the rest of the setup themselves.

ben is it a kit that can bolt on to a full fat 182 or do you need to loose air con etc to make space?

 

[mattjk]

You will definately need to lose the air con compressor by the looks of it LOL!

 

[BenR]

aircon is gone.

Had to make a choice of junking it or increasing costs exponentially for the complexity of a remote drive system.

A conversion will be expensive, but there is expensive, and there is so expensive that they will never sell.

 

[mini-valver]

I've seen the belt routing and brackets. Work of art.

 

[jph172]

Theres a company who make a supercharger for the 172/182. They are called Rotrex and it comes from Sweeden. Local tuners/rolling road to be set one up before christmas made a healthy 250bhp.

 

[Inferno]

The Rotrex supercharger is a generic centrifugal supercharger that is very compact, comes in a variety of sizes and can be used for many applications. By the looks of it, it is what BenR is using.

More info. here: http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=76

 

[BenR]

Rotrex indeed, its the most easily available charger. But it was at BenP's initial choice, i wanted to run another item, but we've stuck with it.

 

[Andy GDI]

rotrex considered it uneconomic to run a remote charger.

its a shame as it would have made a great add on to the air con cars.

 

[JON13S]

mmm please do....

 

[BenR]

It would never sell, the charger itself with extended drive setup, before any mounting kits and drive takeoff kits, would cost about £2k.

 

[TheJesus]

can you keep the aircon with the ebay charger then? They look well good

 

[Toxic#66]

http://www.clio16vclub.it/forum/viewtopic.php?start=0&t=6258

Thats a sweet custom-fitted appliance of a Rotrex charger
Stunning 165bhp from a 98bhp car.
Same charger will fit 172 but the price tag on this baby is twice the price of a new Garret turbo (at least in Poland) Good thing is You need much less work to fit it.

 

[Sweden]

Why don´t move the watercooler back in the car. Alot of space in the engine bay and then fitt turbo and supercharger.

 

[RSTuning]

Vey old topic i know but we've now got the setup running and mapped to 6k on our 172, it's making a very healthy 275hp and 240lbft. Clutch seems to be holding up at the moment but not really done many miles.

It flies!

 

[munz_clio]

^ kit for sale

 

[Craig]

Vey old topic i know but we've now got the setup running and mapped to 6k on our 172, it's making a very healthy 275hp and 240lbft. Clutch seems to be holding up at the moment but not really done many miles.

It flies!

sounds good

 

[RSTuning]

^ kit for sale

When testing is complete then yes, we'll be trying to restrict it some what as the clutch won't last long above 5k like this.

 

[BenR]

We will need to include a 'how to drive' manual with it.

 

[RSTuning]

Yes!

 

[theduck]

So is this running on Bens ph1 with N2O, Methanol et al? or is this a seperate engine?

 

[RSTuning]

It's running on my PH1, stock internals.

 

[theduck]

It's running on my PH1, stock internals.

oh right ok, I thought you were going ITBs? Running stock ecu or?

 

[RSTuning]

That's next

This came up and sounded good fun

 

[Andyman]

Will this charger kit be available through you or at your garage Paul ?

 

[Big Bob]

will it be available for the 172 cup ?.......

 

[RSTuning]

Will this charger kit be available through you or at your garage Paul ?

Through me i expect and of course Angelworks who made this happen with the brackets and design work.

 

[RSTuning]

will it be available for the 172 cup ?.......

Yes

 

[Inferno]

Can it be run with air conditioning or do you need to ditch it?

 

[RSTuning]

Gotta go i'm afraid, space is a big issue

 

[Big Bob]

will it pass an MOT

 

[Inferno]

Thought it might be - Any limitations on the size of Rotrex?

 

[RSTuning]

will it pass an MOT

If you want a cat then yes no probs.

 

[RSTuning]

Thought it might be - Any limitations on the size of Rotrex?

Anything is possible

 

[len_beach]

Rough costs Ben/Paul?

 

[RSTuning]

3.5 maybe. Ben's your man there though.

Compared to other upgrades that alot of power per £

 

[Gumby]

Bit of a tangent here, but why do they not supercharge diesels?

 

[RSTuning]

Because they need a turbo that spools very very quickly to make the torque and clean the smoke up

 

[mattjk]

Fair play to you guys for getting it sorted, looking forward to seeing the results.

 

[Andyman]

Are those bhp and torque results based on the charger and map all done on a stock base engine ?

Basically a clear 100+ bhp gain to be had out the box from results so far or is this in conjunction with other mods too?

 

[Toxic#66]

I'm interested in compression ratio. Did You lower it with low comp pistons or is it same as stock engine?

Did You put the price tag on the brackets yet?
I plan to start the project like that here in Poland next year.
I will obviously need some parts and a good advice