Tom
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- Thread starter VTS_DUDE
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I aint no imposter mate. I give credit where its due thats all. My VTS gets me about the same as your did ( why did you sell it? )
I stuck with mine for all its flaws. Ive had it for nearly 2 yrs now and have fun up against lesser cars than the 172. I dont prentend my motor is anythin that it aint.
Look the new CTR/Mercedes Hybrid costs £80k+. Would beat any VTS/172 ... in a game of chicken
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Yes well most of us over at ssc do. Nice tidy forum btw Top marks to your admin team.Quote: Originally posted by tomclio1.2 on 18 November 2002
its ok mate
look bash id continue this with ssc they actually like saxos
Ill leave yas in peace guys / girls behave yerselves.
Id of left this quite frank "childish forum" a long time ago, but have been so ammused with your complete lack of respect for other hot hatches around, like true schoolboy gangs, you think you are the business in your 172s .
I think there are practically no 172ers whove upgraded from a 106/vts, if youd have had a 106 GTI before your 172 youd respect the fact your 172 is not a whole lot better. But hey Id be a bit upset if someone in there £5k 106GTI was suggesting my £15k 172 wasnt any better, Im the same, I was so dissapointed when my 172 just didnt live up to all its hype.
Good job I didnt buy it new like some of you lot, Id be a bit upset losing £5-6k in 6 months, I cant sell my 172 for love nor money, great car and all that.
VTS_DUDE as you state in the above post, although the Sax handling is top, there is also a point where the car actually develops a mind of its own if pushed hard
anyone who has had the displeasure of losing the back end of the sax in the wet will tell you the same - Lift-off oversteer is not a good thing (can look quite impressive if caught early)
Lets not start another debate on the quality of the forum. If you like it, stay. If not, leave. Easy Peasy.
Tom
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Matt
You are the official http://www.cliosport.net/images/cliosportforum.gif voice of reason!!
Well Done
Agree with big bash on saxo vts handling being better than a 172 on the road(still own one now but hardly use it), but only just, the 172 corners 90% as good but will always be a car length or so worse off on narrow roads, but when you hit the straight the 172 just pulls right back and goes past at the top end of the rev range and continues to pull away a little until the next bend is reached when the saxo pulls right back etc... However put both cars on the track, where the wider area suits the 172 better than the road, its as good as vts into the corners but gets better entry speed and leaves the vts easier in the straights as a result(much personnal experience of this).
However big bash, many 172 owners pay 11-11.5k new for their 172s(on import)and rightly so, not 15k, and as a vts owner you should know that they can be very unreliable and in worst case scenarios cost a lot of money to keep on the road, when out of warranty, and citroen main dealers charge more than anyone for work done. The 172 does not really suffer from these problems as much and the dealers are cheaper, so it is actually(the 172) very cheap to maintain.
Bye Bye
MMMMMMMMMMMMM, my 172 (6k miles) has had a new gearbox, new exhaust, new fog light oh and needed undersealing (properly), great build quality. And for the 100th time I HAVE A 106GTI, which in 3 years has NEVER been in for anything bar service items. Oh and by the way my last service (MAIN PEUGEOT DEALER) cost £69.
WEYLAND sounds like a man of experience as he is a 360er.
Let that be a statement that the VTS will out handle a 172, and track or road...it doesnt matter. The VTS will stick to the road that little bit better and this has been proved and agreed by owners who have had both VTS and 172.
Id say that the majority of 172ers are speaking from paper stats and not from experience...
Without a doubt the 172 has more grunt, but you get an experienced driver in a VTS you are going to be hard pushed to embarass them.
Anyone here interested in organising or attending a track day or meet against 172ers? Ive been on a 172 forum and they are all going on about how great they are. ( TELLING THE TRUTH ) what so wrong with that?
ITs been suggested that the VTS is a bag of sheeee-ite according to the 172ers and so a day like this is probably the only way to prove it! ( SUGGESTED ? ) Dont tell us what we already know.
OH YEAH a member of SSC (SAXMAN) has jumped on the 172 forum claiming that the VTS is indeed sheeee-ite. (HONEST SAXO OWNER AT LAST)
Come on guys its would ba a good day and if there are enough takers (and Im sure that there will be) it would be quite cheap to organise too. ( LMAO )
Just for your amusment check out some of there threads... ( THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE REACHED READING AGE )
http://forum.cliosport.net/display_forum_topics.asp?ForumID=2http://forum.cliosport.net/display_forum_topics.asp?ForumID=2
Can your Mummy knit VTS DUDE ?
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