The future of gaming...

[word_easy]

I had an email from Xbox LIVE today, full game downloads are coming from 11th August...

The psp go will have no UMD drive and games will be downloadable.

Then there is the mightly app store on the iphone.

Are we seeing the end of going into shops to buy games? What will game and gamestation do?!

 

[Brazo]

There's already steam for the pc and the PSN has always hd full game downloads so its nothing new

 

[Paul RN]

There's already steam for the pc and the PSN has always hd full game downloads so its nothing new

You could always do it for the Xbox too. However its now main stream releases.

 

[Brazo]

Yeah I mean main stream releases! There's quite a few on the psn, like burnout Paradise

You could always do it for the Xbox too. However its now main stream releases.

 

[Rob]

Unless the xbox w*****s up their HDD sizes avaliable then just downloading games will not be an option. When we see 1TB HDD's for xbox then maybe.

 

[BRUN]

im coping fine with my Elite, loads of room for more games

 

[Rob]

For a moderate user maybe, but how big is each full game when copied to a HDD? 4, 6 gig? Xbox love their hardcore users too much and earn too much money off them to get rid of discs.

 

[Darren S]

I had an email from Xbox LIVE today, full game downloads are coming from 11th August...

The psp go will have no UMD drive and games will be downloadable.

Then there is the mightly app store on the iphone.

Are we seeing the end of going into shops to buy games? What will game and gamestation do?!

Thankfully. It should never had had that from the start. Noisy, slow and it drinks the battery charge.

Totally pointless, imo.

D.

 

[Clart]

thats all well and good until your hard drive with 20 games on dies.....

I'll keep the disc thanks, you can always install to the hard drive.

 

[Cookie]

thats all well and good until your hard drive with 20 games on dies.....

I'll keep the disc thanks, you can always install to the hard drive.

The games are licenced to the Xbox, same as DLC, so you'd just redownload the data again.

If you buy a new Xbox, you can transfer the licences over to the new one

 

[Clart]

of course, but downloading 100gb+ of games isn't exactly much fun.

 

[Revels]

Are they going to be £20 instead of £40 because you don't have to pay for the printing/distribution? Of course not.

It's the same as the iTunes argument. Why pay £7.99 from iTunes when you're restricted with what you can do with it when you can pay the same from Tesco and do what you like.

 

[tyranical]

You've also forgotten the biggest restraint of all.

Bandwidth.

Nearly every ISP has a "fair usage policy" even if its been advertised as unlimited, its usually around 40gb/month.

Not sure what xbox games are like, but F.E.A.R 2 on PC off steam is an 11.5gb download.

 

[Brazo]

Yes I would need to upgrade the 13gb xbox HD :dapprove:

 

[Cookie]

You've also forgotten the biggest restraint of all.

Bandwidth.

Nearly every ISP has a "fair usage policy" even if its been advertised as unlimited, its usually around 40gb/month.

Not sure what xbox games are like, but F.E.A.R 2 on PC off steam is an 11.5gb download.

Mine's actually unlimited

 

[tyranical]

Mine's actually unlimited

most people aren't that lucky my monthly p**n viewing is severely limited as a result of tiscali.

Shame on them.

 

[valver lad]

Im on the beta of the new dashboard at the moment. The games are smaller when you copy them accross than previous, not by much mind.

http://kotaku.com/5328027/xbox-live-preview-dropping-game-install-sizes

 

[VeinAST]

There's also the fact the UK needs to have 40mb min on broadband speed like viva la France

 

[the1]

Download only will not happen for a good 10+ years imho as like pervious posters have said we don't really have the Broadband Infrastructure atm.

 

[Paul RN]

It's the same as the iTunes argument.

Not quite, you're not ever going to be able to download an Xbox game and be able to play it on a PS3. However most iTunes tracks are DRM free nowadays, so you can buy it from there and play it on what you want.

Agreed they will need a decent pricing policy, but even if they don't they will get demand based on the convienience of sale - order online for the latest game or schedule it's download for it's day of release? Some people do the later for sure.

 

[Greeny.]

You've also forgotten the biggest restraint of all.

Bandwidth.

Nearly every ISP has a "fair usage policy" even if its been advertised as unlimited, its usually around 40gb/month.

Not sure what xbox games are like, but F.E.A.R 2 on PC off steam is an 11.5gb download.

Roll on ADSL2 Next year for me if I stay in this area, which is unlikely

 

[Brazo]

Not quite, you're not ever going to be able to download an Xbox game and be able to play it on a PS3. However most iTunes tracks are DRM free nowadays, so you can buy it from there and play it on what you want.

Agreed they will need a decent pricing policy, but even if they don't they will get demand based on the convienience of sale - order online for the latest game or schedule it's download for it's day of release? Some people do the later for sure.

Aye Games are full price on the PSN but its so nice not having to swap discs and having them installed on your HD!

 

[Phill1978]

to be honest there are a few guys at work who have cracked xbox,ps, xbox360 and have never paid for any games. one even runs a small copying outfit for dvd`s and stuff its bloody annoying and i cant wait for it to be even harder for console and pc owners to stop gaming and film piracy, i know prices can be considered high but some game releases are costing the companies millions to make so £40 aint too bad, its the reason we see so many mint games now.

sick of hearing about people copying games and a decent system by microsoft will hopefully eliminate the need to buy hard copies.

sadly i do like physically owning CD and Blueray but in the end even i have to conceed that MP3 is alot more useable and portable for the car (although id love to see a HD-MP3 solution) if the record compaines had got wise sooner and stopped ripping people off then it would have saved the music industry from the mess its in.

however ive not seen a glut of copied bluerays yet and thats probably because the average copier doesnt even have a bd player yet of the tv to apprieciate it on.

ultimatley the only way to safe guard material will be to increase broadband speeds and move everything online with strong protection and references to purchase on the machine/player ID

 

[tyranical]

ultimatley the only way to safe guard material will be to increase broadband speeds and move everything online with strong protection and references to purchase on the machine/player ID

Won't work.

Piracy will never end, doesn't matter what people do, theres geeks worldwide who will find a way around it. Vista was meant to be the most secure OS ever and it took geeks less than 24 hours to crack it.

If you switch to purely download only, people can still easily download the program, make install files if necessary, upload to torrents or w/e and crack the ID.

 

[Rasclart]

to be honest there are a few guys at work who have cracked xbox,ps, xbox360 and have never paid for any games. one even runs a small copying outfit for dvd`s and stuff its bloody annoying and i cant wait for it to be even harder for console and pc owners to stop gaming and film piracy, i know prices can be considered high but some game releases are costing the companies millions to make so £40 aint too bad, its the reason we see so many mint games now.

sick of hearing about people copying games and a decent system by microsoft will hopefully eliminate the need to buy hard copies.

sadly i do like physically owning CD and Blueray but in the end even i have to conceed that MP3 is alot more useable and portable for the car (although id love to see a HD-MP3 solution) if the record compaines had got wise sooner and stopped ripping people off then it would have saved the music industry from the mess its in.

however ive not seen a glut of copied bluerays yet and thats probably because the average copier doesnt even have a bd player yet of the tv to apprieciate it on.

ultimatley the only way to safe guard material will be to increase broadband speeds and move everything online with strong protection and references to purchase on the machine/player ID

Sadly mate the Blu Ray copies are now filtering out! A few websites with traders are whacking them out at a rate of notes now. £4-5 a piece or cheaper in bulk.

I still prefer a HARD copy of a game. Music not so much bothered now as all my playing sources will happily accept MP3

 

[Brand86]

Yeah, prefer having the discs. Easier, and simpler. The cynic in me says this proposal for "the future" is just because producers don't like second hand game sales (although not sure why as they made a cut the first time the game was sold). Can't see games retailers being too happy either...