The perfect fast road set up for a clio 1*2??

[cliokid182]

So if you had a clio 1*2 and a budget of 6k to spend on it, what would you spend it on to get the perfect fast road set up but still use it as a daily practical* car??

Please no stupid answers like a new car.

 

[DrR]

I'd change the steering wheel and seats, leave rest standard.

 

[R-Sport.]

you have several routes.

Phase 1 172 for 1.5k.
Coilovers, Decent Brakes & pads, steering refurb, arb,Decent tyres - all in for 3k ish-
As above for a P2 172- All in for 3.5 ISH
As above for a p2 182- All in for 4.5k ISH

OR trophy for 4.5 k
Mark fish suspension set up, Arb & a few other bits 5k. DONE-

Still have money to spare for possible engine upgrades.

 

[jesus]

Perfect? Trophy with original Sachs fronts, Sportlines and Koni adjustable rear dampers. Add a Whiteline rear ARB if you wish.

Combine with 15" wheels for ultimate win (and monster truck stance).

 

[.Stevo.C.]

I'd buy a ph1 172 fit brand new 172 cup shocks and Eibach sportline springs & camber bolts and renew every suspension and steering component then probably fire some cams in it.

 

[Tommo.]

To be fair, a new car isn't a stupid idea. £6k + the sale price of your 182 gives you a lot of choice.

If you have your heart set on spending some money on it though, I'd personally do the below -

Ensure you have some decent tyres. I really rate the Pirelli P-Zeros, but looking to try AD08's next.

Refresh the suspension components (new dampers/shocks, springs, track rods, ball joints, bushes, etc.).

Upgrade the front brakes to Brembo HC discs and DS2500's pads (even OEM pads are sufficient for road use though). Braided lines are worth getting also. Leave the rears as they are/replace for standard if required.

A yanoo stiff shift kit, Powerflex dogbone mount and fluid change should see a nice improvement to the gear change.

Recaro Trendlines (from a Trophy/R26 etc.), really good seats- supportive yet retain practicality. New steering wheel to replace the bus-like standard one.

Just a few ideas for you. There's an endless amount of things you can do with these cars.....

 

[Sir_Dave]

Just buy a Trophy, then fit Sportlines, camber bolts, Whiteline Arb and CL5+ Front pads. You dont need anything else.

 

[Ol’ Tarby]

Cheap trophy + second hand RS2 manifold + decent discs and DS2500s

 

[cliokid182]

I did say if you had a 1#2 already btw and 6k on top of that.

 

[Chip-mk1]

For me:
ds2500 pads
Cooksport springs and new cup dampers (Sachs are marginally better but loads more initial cost plus rebuilds)
trendlines
all new bushes and joints and mounts
rs2 manifold with retimed cams
stealth or other similar (piper for example) quiet exhaust

If the budget runs out lose the rs2, its nice to have but the spend is big for a small gain.

If the budget stretches a little add arp and super tech valves for a few more rpm but not really needed for road.

Thats is the spec our RB will be next year hopefully.
​got all the parts to do it but some are in use on our other clios for a bit first.

​if more straightline pace wanted then swap diff+rs2 for low pressure turbo

 

[jesus]

(Sachs are marginally better but loads more initial cost plus rebuilds)

?!

Have you ever actually tried Sachs?

 

[green]

If I had to do it all over again

Quaife diff
cup dampers with cooksport or mark fish springs
poly bush everything
Oz ultra leggera wheels
brembo max groove front discs
A quiet 2.5"exhaust
Remap....or if the budget can stretch.. ITB's
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[Dan519]

My old 172 that's being broken. Ultimate road spec

 

[mitch1503]

2nd hand set of ITB's,cams,Mintex M1155's,coilovers,braided lines,bush freshen up,exhaust,decent rubber

 

[Fletcher]

H&R/ Blistein coilovers
Recaro SPG seats
2118s/ with semi slicks
DS3000 brake pads
Sabelt steering wheel
Safety devices half roll cage
Matched inlets
RS tuner remap
AC delete kit

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Spend the rest on petrol trackdays.

 

[Adamm.]

£6k?

ITB's for sure.
Springs or coilovers.
General freshen up of engine and suspension components.

 

[Chip-mk1]

?!

Have you ever actually tried Sachs?

Yes I have.
They are a good shock but the cup ones aren't bad either. Its not night and day different on a road car like this thread is for but the Sachs would be my preference given sufficient budget.

 

[Chip-mk1]

2nd hand set of ITB's,cams,Mintex M1155's,coilovers,braided lines,bush freshen up,exhaust,decent rubber

Itbs = no cruise control, no aircon, worse than standard mpg
m1155 = noisey at town speeds when braking gently, significant increase in disk wear rate
coilovers = require more maintenance and less comfy in most cases

all good stuff on a trackday car but sod all that on a road car I reckon, lol, would be a boring world if we were all the same though

 

[Tim.]

OP - is this a hypothetical question, or do you have £6k to burn on a RenaultSport Clio you already own?

 

[cliokid182]

OP - is this a hypothetical question, or do you have £6k to burn on a RenaultSport Clio you already own?

lol defiantly hypothetical, I've spent a lot on my Clio already.

ive got.
438 cams
matched inlets
ktec induction kit
eibach sport lines and all new dampers
polybush dog bone
brembo hc discs mintex m1144 pads
Oz f1's

the rest of my money I have spent refreshing parts.

All I want now is a small momo wheel and whiteline arb and some more poly bush goodies.

i would say my set up is a good road set up

 

[Chris Lewis]

I would just replace all the suspension with new standard parts. May not be as quick as above posts (although probably would be), but will be more fun.

 

[Nick172Cup]

For me it has to be...

Quaife
Suspension/steering refresh
Bilstein B14's (set just slightly lower than standard)
Eibach camber bolts
197/200 Steering wheel
Brembo HC's and EBC bluestuff pads.

No engine/exhaust mods, as for a daily is pointless having.

Then the rest on trackdays/touring round Europe in it. The above it the best fast road setup.

 

[theduck]

Koni yellow dampers
eibach sportlines
brembo hc discs
Decent fast road pads
Decent fluid
replace all bushes and ball joints
cup wishbones
throttle bodies

DONE.

 

[plymcl172]

only put ££££'s into a car if you are going to track it. no point having all that power and end up being caught by the law

just use the money on keeping things fresh ie suspension, tyres, servicing and lots of petrol to enjoy the car

 

[JaredHasNoBrain]

Adjustable dampers (Koni)
Cooksports/Eibachs
Bigger brake upgrade (the cheap one someone posted on here)
RARB
Spacers
Possible engine mods:
uprated angine/gearbox mounts
Cams
Ported/polish head?

And a Tow Eye becauseracecer

 

[Andy93]

Adjustable dampers (Koni)
Cooksports/Eibachs
Bigger brake upgrade (the cheap one someone posted on here)
RARB
Spacers
Possible engine mods:
uprated angine/gearbox mounts
Cams
Ported/polish head?

And a Tow Eye becauseracecer

Sounds pretty good to me if I end up buying another Clio.

 

[Chip-mk1]

Adjustable dampers (Koni)
Cooksports/Eibachs
Bigger brake upgrade (the cheap one someone posted on here)
RARB
Spacers
Possible engine mods:
uprated angine/gearbox mounts
Cams
Ported/polish head?

And a Tow Eye becauseracecer

Utterly no point with the expense and hassle of fitting a ported head if you put a normal inlet back on. Only really worth it with cams and bodies.

 

[Martin_172]

im trying to build the ultimate fast road 172 at the moment, so far ive done...

genuine lower arms (later model with extra castor)
genuine track rods and rod ends
genuine cup dampers all round
genuine top mounts
genuine ARB bushes
genuine fresh engine and exhaust mounts
I also fitted 2 new driveshafts and 2 new front hubs and bearings as one has running 2 degrees neg camber lol!!

my next mod is the pure motorsport clio 200 brembo conversion and then ill build a low boost turbo kit for it

 

[mitch1503]

Itbs = no cruise control, no aircon, worse than standard mpg
m1155 = noisey at town speeds when braking gently, significant increase in disk wear rate
coilovers = require more maintenance and less comfy in most cases

all good stuff on a trackday car but sod all that on a road car I reckon, lol, would be a boring world if we were all the same though

have a CUP so no AC,CC so that makes no difference at all to me
have 1155's fitted at the moment and don't find them too bad for noise or heavy wear on a decent set of dics, hence not using brembo as i found they were crap for wear on standard pads
rather have the coils so it's more adjustable come a trackday as you're stuck with cup/standard shock and eibach/cooksport's otherwise

 

[Mini182]

​You don't have to loose air con with itbs, do you?

 

[cliokid182]

im trying to build the ultimate fast road 172 at the moment, so far ive done...

genuine lower arms (later model with extra castor)
genuine track rods and rod ends
genuine cup dampers all round
genuine top mounts
genuine ARB bushes
genuine fresh engine and exhaust mounts
I also fitted 2 new driveshafts and 2 new front hubs and bearings as one has running 2 degrees neg camber lol!!

my next mod is the pure motorsport clio 200 brembo conversion and then ill build a low boost turbo kit for it

Why didn't you get powerflex bushes?

 

[Dan@SJM]

For me it has to be...

Quaife
Suspension/steering refresh
Bilstein B14's (set just slightly lower than standard)
Eibach camber bolts
197/200 Steering wheel
Brembo HC's and EBC bluestuff pads.

No engine/exhaust mods, as for a daily is pointless having.

Then the rest on trackdays/touring round Europe in it. The above it the best fast road setup.

This except the brake pads.

 

[Budgie]

Nick is spot on.

 

[Nick172Cup]

This except the brake pads.

Brake pads are alright Dan, not mega powerful but good enough and last long enough for me.

 

[Dan@SJM]

It's the lack of staying in 1 piece that sways me away from EBC.

 

[Nick172Cup]

It's the lack of staying in 1 piece that sways me away from EBC.

Never had an issue with the bluestuffs before mate, can't talk for the others though.

 

[Dan@SJM]

I've not used blue stuff. I've experienced every other colour they do and they have all fallen apart, not just on the clio range either

 

[Martin_172]

Why didn't you get powerflex bushes?

because Renault spend a considerable amount developing the bushes for the car, and when new the cars drive brilliantly so that's how I wanted it to drive

 

[mikeh]

Starting with a 182FF.

Refurb'd Sachs front dampers
Koni adjustable rears
Cooksport springs
Full suspension refresh including wishbones (OEM bushes), ARB Bushes, inner and outer trackrods, top mounts etc. etc.
Quaife.
DS2500s all round.
15" wheels (Turini or 2118 IMO) wrapped in AD08s.

I make that ~£3k spent if you do all the work but fitting the diff yourself.

I'd find it hard to spend any more on the car, but if the budget absolutely had to be £6k I'd probably throw ITBs in as well.

 

[robmuns]

Im looking to do a full suspension refresh in the near future, is it worth fitting polybushes on a fast road car that may occasionally go on track or would the oem bushes be good enough?