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The Power PC Thread [f*ck off consoles]



Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
  Black Gold 182
Finished the Logitech/Fanatec hybrid eventually. It's been a bit of a trial of patience, but got there in the end. The pedal base is now connected to the frame floor in no less than ten places - so that fecker isn't moving at all - even under my size 10s. The main reason for doing so was having drilled the frame for the top edge of the pedals base to fit, the rear of it had no support frame underneath to be bolted to. Luckily, there's a central section of the pedal base that would allow 40mm bolts to be passed through and to the aluminium base plate below. Obviously aluminium, even when its pretty thick, isn't the strongest of components - hence the shotgun approach to the centre bolts. I'd rather over-engineer it to begin with - especially if it doesn't have to be removed.

Tried it with both Assetto Corsa and Project Cars 2 last night and it works a treat. I'd be massively quicker using the paddle shifts for gears, but there's something more fun and tactile coming up to a corner, pressing the clutch and braking whilst downshifting from 4th to 3rd. Now there's just the small matter of cable management and cable-tying the frame...:)

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Richard_UK

ClioSport Club Member
  Passat Tdi Sport
Does your clutch work in PC2? I find that in manual mode if I put the clutch in it doesn’t work the car just keeps driving, but if I put the clutch in when in auto it will disengage the gear :unsure:
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
  Black Gold 182
Does your clutch work in PC2? I find that in manual mode if I put the clutch in it doesn’t work the car just keeps driving, but if I put the clutch in when in auto it will disengage the gear :unsure:
Yep - worked fine for me. Assetto was a little weird in that the clutch was greyed out so I couldn't complete the calibration of all the other settings. Turns out that there was a setting applied for 'Automatic Clutch' that has to be disabled before you can assign it.

In Assetto, you get the opportunity to select the inputs and then tick a box to invert them. Not sure if PC2 has similar, but that sounds exactly like what you need.
 

Richard_UK

ClioSport Club Member
  Passat Tdi Sport
Yep - worked fine for me. Assetto was a little weird in that the clutch was greyed out so I couldn't complete the calibration of all the other settings. Turns out that there was a setting applied for 'Automatic Clutch' that has to be disabled before you can assign it.

In Assetto, you get the opportunity to select the inputs and then tick a box to invert them. Not sure if PC2 has similar, but that sounds exactly like what you need.
If you invert the pedals in PC2 it switches the clutch the acc, for people who mount them upside down.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
  Black Gold 182
If you invert the pedals in PC2 it switches the clutch the acc, for people who mount them upside down.
How does that work then - bit puzzled on that?

Wouldn't it still need a measurement recording the spring depression or load cell resistance - regardless of floor mounting or from up above the pedal? I know that in Assetto, the default calibration of the pedals shows the recording at 100% (as if I'm fully depressing it) when I take my foot off the pedal. If I started the game with that, the throttle would be at 100% and undriveable. Ticking the invert box allows them to run as you'd expect with more pressure increasing the value recorded.
 

Richard_UK

ClioSport Club Member
  Passat Tdi Sport
How does that work then - bit puzzled on that?

Wouldn't it still need a measurement recording the spring depression or load cell resistance - regardless of floor mounting or from up above the pedal? I know that in Assetto, the default calibration of the pedals shows the recording at 100% (as if I'm fully depressing it) when I take my foot off the pedal. If I started the game with that, the throttle would be at 100% and undriveable. Ticking the invert box allows them to run as you'd expect with more pressure increasing the value recorded.
I think I might have got it wrong, before I got the full game when I was playing the demo occasionally I would start the game the accelerator would be working as the clutch and clutch working as the accelerator, I had to reset the pedals to standard or something in the settings to get it back to normal, I assumed it was the invert setting that had caused it. I really need to start playing with the settings, I haven't changed anything from standard set up yet.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
  Black Gold 182
I think I might have got it wrong, before I got the full game when I was playing the demo occasionally I would start the game the accelerator would be working as the clutch and clutch working as the accelerator, I had to reset the pedals to standard or something in the settings to get it back to normal, I assumed it was the invert setting that had caused it. I really need to start playing with the settings, I haven't changed anything from standard set up yet.
It can be a bit of a ballache to get setup right! In all honesty, I'm impressed at the flexibility of most modern games to cope with a whole range of inputs - even when the likes of Assetto are getting on in their years.

I've currently got a Logitech G13 gameboard connected, an XBox One controller, a Logitech G920 wheel, a Fanatec ClubSport Shifter and a Fanatec CSR Elite v1 pedal set - and the game will accept inputs from any of them. I did think about putting all the 'technical' controls onto the XBox pad, like brake bias, etc - but haven't got that far yet.

Conversely, it frustrates me when you get companies that are entrenched in the way inputs are set. "No - you have to use that key for that. And this key for that function" - when clearly as seen above, it's not difficult at all to let the player choose themselves as to what is better for them.
 

Richard_UK

ClioSport Club Member
  Passat Tdi Sport
It can be a bit of a ballache to get setup right! In all honesty, I'm impressed at the flexibility of most modern games to cope with a whole range of inputs - even when the likes of Assetto are getting on in their years.

I've currently got a Logitech G13 gameboard connected, an XBox One controller, a Logitech G920 wheel, a Fanatec ClubSport Shifter and a Fanatec CSR Elite v1 pedal set - and the game will accept inputs from any of them. I did think about putting all the 'technical' controls onto the XBox pad, like brake bias, etc - but haven't got that far yet.

Conversely, it frustrates me when you get companies that are entrenched in the way inputs are set. "No - you have to use that key for that. And this key for that function" - when clearly as seen above, it's not difficult at all to let the player choose themselves as to what is better for them.
I think something like this might be my next project..

 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
  Black Gold 182
I think something like this might be my next project..

Not got a spare 600 Euros lying around? ;)

 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
  Black Gold 182
I think something like this might be my next project..

Pedals aren't silly money by the looks of it?

 

Richard_UK

ClioSport Club Member
  Passat Tdi Sport
Pedals aren't silly money by the looks of it?

  • This product includes pedals inverted modified parts, without the pedals
What you’re getting there is the black plastic part for modifying the pedals.
 

Richard_UK

ClioSport Club Member
  Passat Tdi Sport
Not got a spare 600 Euros lying around? ;)

I’d rather knock something together and use the pedals I already have (just standard G29)
 

Richard_UK

ClioSport Club Member
  Passat Tdi Sport
Have you got the gteye mod yet for the springs? Well worth it, imo.
All still just standard at the moment.

I need to actually start using it at some point, I’ve spent way more time putting it all together, frame, seat, gaming laptop, vr, etc, than I have playing on it.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
  Black Gold 182
Looks like the brake pedal has gone back to being a lottery when you need it. Nothing, nothing, 40% - wham 100%. Or worse - downshifting to a corner and just nothing coming back from the middle pedal. Hello Mr. Barrier.

So.... took a punt on a replacement load cell through eBay (less than a tenner) and then needed to address the PU foam issue within the brake cylinder. Over time, the foam fails one of two ways. It goes rock solid with no give whatsoever. Or it goes that soft as to offer zero resistance and attempts to 'mushroom' out of the opening. Reading online, a number of people have replaced these with PU rods of Scope A50 spec - though some have gone as high as A70. That must be Olympian levels of thigh muscles that require that, as A90 PU is used within suspension components.

Managed to find a online seller in Sheffield that will do a 30cm PU rod cut down into 25mm lengths for a cheap price. Might keep a couple for myself and sell the others through eBay for the other poor Fanatec saps who are suffering a similar issue. Assuming it fixes the problem that is. ;)
 


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