The Power PC Thread [f*ck off consoles]

[Willo40]

Costco advertising 50** PC's.

https://www.costco.co.uk/Computers/Desktops-PCs-iMacs/AWD-IT-Evolution-9-AMD-Ryzen-7-64GB-RAM-2TB-SSD-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-5090-Gaming-Desktop-PC/p/559699?utm_campaign=FY25P7W3e&utm_medium=email&utm_source=email&utm_content=Feat-9&utm_term=awd&sc_src=email_23073&sc_lid=5548588&sc_uid=lXtSgdzAB4&sc_llid=350043

 

[Grandpa Joe]

Costco advertising 50** PC's.

https://www.costco.co.uk/Computers/Desktops-PCs-iMacs/AWD-IT-Evolution-9-AMD-Ryzen-7-64GB-RAM-2TB-SSD-NVIDIA-GeForce-RTX-5090-Gaming-Desktop-PC/p/559699?utm_campaign=FY25P7W3e&utm_medium=email&utm_source=email&utm_content=Feat-9&utm_term=awd&sc_src=email_23073&sc_lid=5548588&sc_uid=lXtSgdzAB4&sc_llid=350043

Might be a good option for @SharkyUK

 

[SharkyUK]

Might be a good option for @SharkyUK

Well, a major workstation upgrade is on the cards this year... assuming I can get hold of my ordered 5090! I'm alright for PSU, case, cooling, cabling, and storage. But I will need a new CPU, mobo, and RAM. Thanks both for the link and mention. However, without wanting to sound like an ungrateful pr!ck, it's not a high enough baseline spec for what I'm wanting/needing. Ideally, I want to go with a HEDT CPU again and a mobo that has additional PCI-E lanes, and support for 192GB RAM. I'm not sure whether to go Team Blue or Team Red with the CPU, whilst the GPU is Team Green. It's a shame AMD aren't pursuing that top tier of the GPU market.

 

[Grandpa Joe]

Well, a major workstation upgrade is on the cards this year... assuming I can get hold of my ordered 5090! I'm alright for PSU, case, cooling, cabling, and storage. But I will need a new CPU, mobo, and RAM. Thanks both for the link and mention. However, without wanting to sound like an ungrateful pr!ck, it's not a high enough baseline spec for what I'm wanting/needing. Ideally, I want to go with a HEDT CPU again and a mobo that has additional PCI-E lanes, and support for 192GB RAM. I'm not sure whether to go Team Blue or Team Red with the CPU, whilst the GPU is Team Green. It's a shame AMD aren't pursuing that top tier of the GPU market.

The issue for AMD is that people buy Nvidia products whether they're better or not, because Nvidia. So they don't get the revenue to fund the top tier.

It's a bit like Intel 20 odd years ago, the AMD CPUs might have been better but people still bought Intel, because Intel.

I also often see the reason "bEcAuSe aMd DrIvErS aRe BaD"...yeah about 25 years ago. Over the past few years I've personally had more issues with Nvidia drivers than AMD.

 

[Steve]

Where’s best place to get either ThinkPad or Dell laptop at least 15 inch screen need high spec & big ram & SSD for running race studio analisis

 

[Geddes]

well i bought my first part for the nuw build, i got the Lian Li 216 Lancool Mid Tower non RGB. It was the one i allways wanted and had a look at other brands too but the 216 looks great and well reviewed. After hitting the buy button it crossed my mind wether i should of gotten the RGB version instead.

Still waiting for new gpraphic cards to hit the market, i don't think the 5070 or the 9070 will be for me, the 5060 / 5060TI will be for what i need or even the 9060 just hope there's more than enough supply to go round and keep cost low

What Thermalright cpu air cooler fan i'll need for a AM5 9000 AM5 for say a 9060 or a 5060 gpu? i see there a few versions, are the intel the same amd or not regarding the same cooler for both versions?

 

[mace¬]

What the options to be able to switch my monitor between my work laptop and PC?

Bought this but it when I’m on the PC the screen flickers alot

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08DXWYZTF/?tag=cliospnet01-21

Any recommendations?

 

[R3k1355]

 

[SharkyUK]

I also often see the reason "bEcAuSe aMd DrIvErS aRe BaD"...yeah about 25 years ago. Over the past few years I've personally had more issues with Nvidia drivers than AMD.

I'm not sure how closely you follow Team Green, but the latest run of drivers supporting 50x0 have been one trainwreck after another, and it's also affected older series cars as nVidia try to fix the numerous issues that are surfacing. aMd DrIvErS wOrK bEsTeReR rIgHt NoW.

EDIT: In fact, I think AMD drivers would probably work better powering nVidia hardware right now. 🤣

 

[Grandpa Joe]

I'm not sure how closely you follow Team Green, but the latest run of drivers supporting 50x0 have been one trainwreck after another, and it's also affected older series cars as nVidia try to fix the numerous issues that are surfacing. aMd DrIvErS wOrK bEsTeReR rIgHt NoW.

EDIT: In fact, I think AMD drivers would probably work better powering nVidia hardware right now. 🤣

I'm a bit out of touch of late. Ouch!

Did you manage to get a 5090 in the end, Andy?

 

[SharkyUK]

I'm a bit out of touch of late. Ouch!

Did you manage to get a 5090 in the end, Andy?

No mate, it will be 3 months of waiting in a few days time. And I was a "lucky" one who got a day one pre-order.

I've still got 131 people in front of me and that queue position number drops by about 3 or 4 a week (on a good week). Scan were happy to take my 3k immediately, of course... and have been sitting on that money. I can get a refund, but I then lose my position in the queue. It's an absolute farce. By the time I get the GPU, I'll be putting in the order for the 6090.

 

[charltjr]

Nvidia don’t give a s**t about gamers now, they’re just cranking out megabucks in the AI sector.

Power draws are getting stupid too, I don’t want a 250w CPU and a 500w GPU, may as well just run an electric heater.

 

[N0ddie]

No mate, it will be 3 months of waiting in a few days time. And I was a "lucky" one who got a day one pre-order.

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I've still got 131 people in front of me and that queue position number drops by about 3 or 4 a week (on a good week). Scan were happy to take my 3k immediately, of course... and have been sitting on that money. I can get a refund, but I then lose my position in the queue. It's an absolute farce. By the time I get the GPU, I'll be putting in the order for the 6090.

Overclockers have had loads of Astrals to buy "off the shelf" a few times over the last few weeks.

 

[SharkyUK]

Overclockers have had loads of Astrals to buy "off the shelf" a few times over the last few weeks.

True, and on the 4 occasions I've tried to buy one, they havent been in stock despite what the website said. 😪 Apparently, I just missed out each time. Could be coincidence. I don't know any more!

 

[R3k1355]

People will have bots buying for them, as soon as the website updates the bots sweep in and clear them out.

 

[Maccy]

Overclockers have some in now, but I don't think they're the one that @SharkyUK is after!

 

[SharkyUK]

Overclockers have some in now, but I don't think they're the one that @SharkyUK is after!

This ☹️
I'm on all the wait lists, notification lists, etc. but nothing as yet. Scan seems my best bet but I'm still months away at this rate! 😵🙄

 

[SharkyUK]

Ooh, a big delivery of stock hit Scan today and I've gone from queue position 131 to 109. 🤣 You see? This is what it's brought me to!

 

[Ray Gin]

Have they sorted the heat issues out with the 5090s?

 

[Wilkeh]

Ooh, a big delivery of stock hit Scan today and I've gone from queue position 131 to 109. 🤣 You see? This is what it's brought me to!

I haven't paid any attention at all to the 50 series cards. Why are they so unavailable? Scalpers and miners? I wouldn't have thought a £3k card would be that popular really

 

[Matt Cup]

I haven't paid any attention at all to the 50 series cards. Why are they so unavailable? Scalpers and miners? I wouldn't have thought a £3k card would be that popular really

Probably due to resellers like you say and the fact they are drip feeding them into the market to increase demand and create scarcity.

 

[R3k1355]

There isn't much of value to GPU mine anymore I don't think, not so much that people would be going mental for the cards.

They're the only game in town at the ultra high end, so it's not like there's any other option.

 

[SharkyUK]

Have they sorted the heat issues out with the 5090s?

There have been a couple more reports of melting cables but the majority are seemingly due to incorrect fitting of the cable (not pushing it in correctly/far enough) or having uneven pressure on the connector head due to cables pushing against the inside panels of cases at funny angles. The power draw is still ridiculous on them and they can warm pretty warm. Interestingly, a lot of the 50x0 GPUs are reported to be quieter then their 40x0 predecessors.

The reason I am holding out for the ROG Astral OC is for the clever gubbins built into it. It has load sensors on each wire from the power connector and can report current load on them individually, shutting down the GPU if necessary. It also has a built-in gyroscope that reports back excessive sag that can lead to uneven pressure on the PCIe connector.

I haven't paid any attention at all to the 50 series cards. Why are they so unavailable? Scalpers and miners? I wouldn't have thought a £3k card would be that popular really

You can go online and get a lower-tier 50x0 without too many problems now. There are even quite a few 5090s coming into stock as I speak. However, those handful of top-tier 5090s are very low volume in comparison and in very high demand. Scalpers are a nuisance on those high-end cards, too.

 

[Mr Squashie]

Threw together some old parts and helped my daughter build her first PC. Nothing too special, just a de-lidded 4790k @4.8GHz and a GTX 1080 that's had the thermal paste replaced with liquid metal. Paired with a 32" 75Hz 1440p monitor Good enough for Minecraft etc.

Turns out it's the perfect use case for modern AI stuff too. Installed Hogwarts Legacy and as expected it was a stuttering mess, but after some tweaking with Optiscaler it's now running on high settings at 1440p at a locked 75fps using a combination of FSR 3 quality mode which gets the base framerate to 60+fps, then FSR 3.1 frame gen to smooth out stutters. It's a genuinely good gaming experience despite being 10 year old hardware. I'm shocked 😯

 

[Jonnio]

Threw together some old parts and helped my daughter build her first PC. Nothing too special, just a de-lidded 4790k @4.8GHz and a GTX 1080 that's had the thermal paste replaced with liquid metal. Paired with a 32" 75Hz 1440p monitor Good enough for Minecraft etc.

Turns out it's the perfect use case for modern AI stuff too. Installed Hogwarts Legacy and as expected it was a stuttering mess, but after some tweaking with Optiscaler it's now running on high settings at 1440p at a locked 75fps using a combination of FSR 3 quality mode which gets the base framerate to 60+fps, then FSR 3.1 frame gen to smooth out stutters. It's a genuinely good gaming experience despite being 10 year old hardware. I'm shocked 😯
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Nice one!

Starting them young on mouse and keyboard ftw. Come to it too late and they end up crippled like @Cub. 🤡🎮

 

[Cub.]

Nice one!

Starting them young on mouse and keyboard ftw. Come to it too late and they end up crippled like @Cub. 🤡🎮

PC/Controller MasterRace

Isn’t that right @Adamm.

 

[Mr Squashie]

Nice one!

Starting them young on mouse and keyboard ftw. Come to it too late and they end up crippled like @Cub. 🤡🎮

I bet he uses an OG Xbox controller too because his paws are too big for human sized controllers

 

[Cub.]

I bet he uses an OG Xbox controller too because his paws are too big for human sized controllers

I use a Scuf actually.

For “max sweat” mode.

 

[Jonnio]

PC/Controller MasterRace

Isn’t that right @Adamm.

But Gray Zone Warfare and other games. 🥹

 

[Grandpa Joe]

The reason I am holding out for the ROG Astral OC is for the clever gubbins built into it. It has load sensors on each wire from the power connector and can report current load on them individually, shutting down the GPU if necessary. It also has a built-in gyroscope that reports back excessive sag that can lead to uneven pressure on the PCIe connector.

I never realised they had all that on them. Probably cheaper than replacement under warranty 🙈

 

[N0ddie]

Ooh, a big delivery of stock hit Scan today and I've gone from queue position 131 to 109. 🤣 You see? This is what it's brought me to!

OCUK had more in stock this week also. LC and air.

 

[SharkyUK]

OCUK had more in stock this week also. LC and air.

Thanks, fella. I got an OCUK notification through and secured an order. It should arrive on Wednesday. 👍

I'm not cancelling my other two orders until it arrives, though. FFS, nearly 9k out of my account on 3 GPUs. It's ridiculous to be honest. Scandalous even.

 

[Wilkeh]

That's more than what my 2 Golfs are worth 🤣

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

Evening geeks.

If I wanted 3 x computers with the below spec, how much /what should I be looking to buy?

Intel i7 processor, Nvidia GEForce RTX4080ti Super graphics card and 32GB RAM.

 

[Cub.]

Evening geeks.

If I wanted 3 x computers with the below spec, how much /what should I be looking to buy?

Intel i7 processor, Nvidia GEForce RTX4080ti Super graphics card and 32GB RAM.

@Daz... @Jonnio @SharkyUK

NERDS……



ASSEMBLE!!!!

 

[SharkyUK]

Evening geeks.

If I wanted 3 x computers with the below spec, how much /what should I be looking to buy?

Intel i7 processor, Nvidia GEForce RTX4080ti Super graphics card and 32GB RAM.

What generation i7 processor is it, fella? Do you need things like monitors included?

 

[Maccy]

Building yourself or done for you? If the latter I'd be looking at something like this - https://www.overclockers.co.uk/ocuk-gaming-sabre-intel-i7-14700f-rtx-5070-gaming-pc-fs-1fa-og.html

 

[SharkyUK]

It wasn't due to arrive until tomorrow... too busy to fit it, though.

 

[Sheila’s’ Wheels’]

What generation i7 processor is it, fella? Do you need things like monitors included?

No monitors. They’ll be running sim software and projectors. X

 

[SharkyUK]

Evening geeks.

If I wanted 3 x computers with the below spec, how much /what should I be looking to buy?

Intel i7 processor, Nvidia GEForce RTX4080ti Super graphics card and 32GB RAM.

Depending on i7 variant and other items (such as motherboard, storage, etc) I'd put a ballpark figure of 1300-1800 quid per system off the shelf. Easier to buy something like @Maccy linked rather than build your own these days.