The sleepers appreciation thread

[djchewy]

That mini is not so subtle! Still, nobody would expect it to put out those figures.. semi-sleeper.

if the cage was black it would look a lot more subtle

 

[jesus]

That Polo is awesome!

 

[182kev]

Van is a good one, seen that before, perfect sleeper

The royal nail van and mk3 escort were owned by the same person,sure he's sold the van now though :S

still got the mk3 though

 

[Joeh]

deans 106gti turbo, running around 450bhp at the fly, 390 at the wheels, still the original pug 1.6 lump too

http://s128.photobucket.com/albums/p179/saxmad88/?action=view&current=29032009008.flv

serious animal

 

[fUbAr]

serious animal

but certainly not a sleeper...

 

[Chris n nic]

I can't be arsed to look through the whole topic so appologies if this is already here but

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Chris

 

[Yosemite Sam]

WTF is in that Honda?! Christ!!

 

[Ian_182]

That crx is a great sleaper.

 

[Chris n nic]

The engine is a B18 which has a lot of variations but I imagine it will be a teg engine turbo'd....so maybe similar power to the lambo but soooo much lighter

Chris

 

[VeinAST]

That Escrote van is awesome.

 

[Joeh]

but certainly not a sleeper...

apart from the intercooler it is, so what your saying is nothing with an intercooler is a sleeper, that is a 1000bhp per tonne 106 and your saying its not a sleeper. so when youre in your ferrari youd realy see it and think 'thats goin to be quicker than me'

no

 

[VeinAST]

apart from the intercooler it is, so what your saying is nothing with an intercooler is a sleeper, that is a 1000bhp per tonne 106 and your saying its not a sleeper. so when youre in your ferrari youd realy see it and think 'thats goin to be as quicker than me'

no

But if you see a car with lashings of carbon fibre and chavvy morettes on the front you're hardly going to think it's standard.

But it's not a sleeper, no. If it was standard or looked a shade poverty spec then possibly but to me it screams track weapon.

 

[172Ben]

Correct, its not a sleeper.

Doesnt it spin in every gear, so 1000bhp per tonne is pointless really?

 

[Jay Payne]

Vein has the right idea.....


this looks like a (very tidy) old mk3 escort...........(notice its not been turned into an RS rep or even got alloys)

This looks modified........

1st one is a sleeper the 2nd is a big/fast engine in a car/van that you dont expect it in. Different things.


Which one 'Looks' faster?

 

[Justin]

But if you see a car with lashings of carbon fibre and chavvy morettes on the front you're hardly going to think it's standard.

But it's not a sleeper, no. If it was standard or looked a shade poverty spec then possibly but to me it screams track weapon.

I'd class it as a sleeper. Who would expect a 106 to have 450bhp?

 

[sean_d]

Pretty sure the Escort was done by the lad who did the van

 

[Justin]

Mk3 Polo with some questionable choice in wheels, nothing too unusual here...

I like that.. Though I see your undying love for G40's is still alive!

 

[VeinAST]

I'd class it as a sleeper. Who would expect a 106 to have 450bhp?

But it looks modified and that's the point I'm putting across and the point that Joeh was trying to make although the fact the 106 looks modified it is bound to cause suspicion and totally redeem the whole idea behind a sleeper?

 

[Joeh]

I'd class it as a sleeper. Who would expect a 106 to have 450bhp?

Exacly, people have got the idea the car has to look bog standard, and as for 'chavvy headlights' and 'lashings of carbon fibre', then the chavs must have got rich because i know that 106 has cost a lot of money and time to build and is certainly not chavvy, its a peugeot 106 with 450bhp, yet because it has different lights people will expect 450bhp yeah???

:S

 

[VeinAST]

Exacly, people have got the idea the car has to look bog standard, and as for 'chavvy headlights' and 'lashings of carbon fibre', then the chavs must have got rich because i know that 106 has cost a lot of money and time to build and is certainly not chavvy, its a peugeot 106 with 450bhp, yet because it has different lights people will expect 450bhp yeah???

:S

I have never mentioned the power if you read my posts.

Also, never said the carbon was cheap, however the morettes ARE chavvy, regardless.

Yeah it will cost alot to put 450bhp into a 106 but if you saw it at the lights/on the track/in the rear view mirror then you would know it's modified, not to the extent of big power but that it's definitely NOT standard. And the whole point of a sleeper is to skew the idea behind the car like the Escort in the above post.

 

[Joeh]

no imho the idea of a sleeper is a car that is a lot quicker than it looks
morretes arent chavvy, angel eyes yes, morretes no

 

[VeinAST]

no imho the idea of a sleeper is a car that is a lot quicker than it looks
morretes arent chavvy, angel eyes yes, morretes no

Then we have two different perceptions of a sleeper and that's the problem.

 

[Jay Payne]

Quote:
Wikipedia..............

A sleeper is a car that has high performance and an unassuming exterior. Sleeper cars are termed such because their exterior looks little or no different from a standard or economy-class car (or in some cases worse due to seeming neglect on the owners part), but internally they are modified (or are built) to perform at higher levels.

As I posted earlier and what the thread is about^


Highlighted the important bit, 106GTI's with 450bhp maybe very unexpected but a True sleeper is as above

 

[Alex_X93]

279bhp 280Lb/ft @10psi. Built by Flan

LOL! I start mine ASAP
Edit: forgot to mention it has 1.2 badges on it

Nice car any idea where the number plate L 3VOM is now??

 

[mr2haz]

Here is my project prilliams. Nothing amazing but it is fitted with an f7r and I hope to have steel wheels with trims in the future.

 

[R1XPH]

I'd class it as a sleeper. Who would expect a 106 to have 450bhp?

You hardly look at the thing and think its got 45 BHP do you? It's painfuly obvious its got some sort of performance to it with that huge FMIC and everything else.

If it was some rusty rat wagon, then yes it's a sleeper. Thats just a modified car and it's painfuly obvious.

 

[VeinAST]

Here is my project prilliams. Nothing amazing but it is fitted with an f7r and I hope to have steel wheels with trims in the future.

Looks immense! You should get a project thread up

 

[W17GLE]

Prilliams is a proper sleeper, a sleeper should look exactly as it came out the factory but with a silly engine imo

 

[Rob]

Prilliams is a proper sleeper, a sleeper should look exactly as it came out the factory but with a silly engine imo

Or worse...

I agree.

 

[Justin]

You hardly look at the thing and think its got 45 BHP do you? It's painfuly obvious its got some sort of performance to it with that huge FMIC and everything else.

If it was some rusty rat wagon, then yes it's a sleeper. Thats just a modified car and it's painfuly obvious.

Dont really agree. Can see what your saying, but looking at it you'd expect it to have maybe 250bhp max? Maybe its just me!

 

[172Ben]

Less chat more pics imo

 

[Jay Payne]

But if it looked like a diesel van it would be even more of a surprise

 

[Jay Payne]

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[VeinAST]

Love that

 

[Jay Payne]

http://www.torquecars.com/articles/sleepers.php

Explains it well^

 

[Jay Payne]

Does the 1/4mile in 11sec apparently

 

[StevenMc29]

Now thats a proper looking sleeper. Wheel trims cable tied on definitely add to the effect well

 

[Jay Payne]

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[Mr Burns]

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Wowwww!

 

[Craig]

Does the 1/4mile in 11sec apparently

seen this at pvs feck me its fast