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The VR thread



ChrisR

ClioSport Club Member
Still tempted to give this a try, the Quest 2 range are going up £100 from next month so time to get one might be now...
 

R3k1355

ClioSport Club Member
I thought we were expecting the Quest 3 now, not a big price bump on a 2 year old bit of kit
 

McGherkin

Macca fan boiiiii
ClioSport Club Member
Had a completely f**king awesome experience this evening.
DCS in VR is cool as f**k anyway, flying is something you do sitting down so it works really well with VR but I thought I'd try something different.
Took off in the Chinook, stuck it in level flight cruising along, dropped the ramp, and then switched to the engineer's position in the rear cabin.
Since I have my whole living room to walk around, I have essentially just plonked myself in the back of a Chinook and it just so happened that the side seats lined up with the sofa.

Had a walk around looked out of the windows, all very cool. Walked up to the ramp and suddenly became acutely aware of the fact that the ground was a couple thousand feet below me off the edge of that ramp and genuinely had a bit of a 'ooh this is rather high' moment. Sat on the 'seats' at the back of the cabin and watched the world go by for a bit.
 
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mace¬

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio
My MQ3 had been a bit of a novelty, bit of fruit ninja, do like the 3d puzzle game and played Arkham nights up until the fight tutorial but was sweating like a fat b**ch at a rave after.

Impressive tech but not really got the space with the kids toys about.

Next step is a DrivR golf club and Golf+ as I love my golf games
 

McGherkin

Macca fan boiiiii
ClioSport Club Member
I'm considering upgrading from my Rift S. The FOV is just tiny on that, which makes it really hard to get to switches in the corners of the cockpit which are on the edges of my periphery.

Replaced a Vive with the quest 3 for assetto corsa, it's pretty smooth as long as it's connected by cable, takes a bit of setting up the first time round
Are you using a Wifi 6 router in the same room with the PC connected to it by ethernet? I was under the impression that was required.
 

.Joe

ClioSport Club Member
I'm considering upgrading from my Rift S. The FOV is just tiny on that, which makes it really hard to get to switches in the corners of the cockpit which are on the edges of my periphery.


Are you using a Wifi 6 router in the same room with the PC connected to it by ethernet? I was under the impression that was required.
Pc is on 10gbe fibre back to the router, over wifi the headset is fine for anything that doesn't need consistent fps, at 90-120fps the stuttering can catch you out
 

McGherkin

Macca fan boiiiii
ClioSport Club Member
Pc is on 10gbe fibre back to the router, over wifi the headset is fine for anything that doesn't need consistent fps, at 90-120fps the stuttering can catch you out
That's annoying. I wanted to ditch the wire. That said, 120fps ian't really a problem in DCS :ROFLMAO:
 

Sir Nancy Flowers

ClioSport Club Member
  M140i
So, Quest 3S now obtained. Bon.

After HOURS of f**king about with PC settings, VR settings and so on, multiple PC crashes and various states of personal rage, ive finally got it approximately where I want it. Noice.

However, im now getting an error with Link. Ffs.

Im finding that even the slightest movement in the headset is causing the cable to move and the headset to disconnect, and then immediately reconnect. I get the pop up saying 'Enable Link?'. Which, when youre flying through Eau Rouge in triple figures, isnt ideal :LOL:

Anyone got a decent solution?


Ive seen a few guys have some 3d printed clips made. Im tempted to ask @dann2707 to print me and post me one :cool:
 

dann2707

ClioSport Club Member
So, Quest 3S now obtained. Bon.

After HOURS of f**king about with PC settings, VR settings and so on, multiple PC crashes and various states of personal rage, ive finally got it approximately where I want it. Noice.

However, im now getting an error with Link. Ffs.

Im finding that even the slightest movement in the headset is causing the cable to move and the headset to disconnect, and then immediately reconnect. I get the pop up saying 'Enable Link?'. Which, when youre flying through Eau Rouge in triple figures, isnt ideal :LOL:

Anyone got a decent solution?


Ive seen a few guys have some 3d printed clips made. Im tempted to ask @dann2707 to print me and post me one :cool:
Drop me a WhatsApp sexy. More than happy to help
 

Sir Nancy Flowers

ClioSport Club Member
  M140i
HAHAHAHAH f**k YEAAAHHH I MADE IT WORK


f**king get in. A solid 1.5 hours on AC last night with only one crash (After I got it to work for about half an hour, I maxed out all the settings and crashed my PC lol).

Its so so good. Still definitely need some minor tweaks to get it looking how I wanted but eurgh, its so good. Being able to look 'through' an apex is so sweet too and the immersion is awesome. Can/Will loose hours on this bloody thing.

Now just to refine the setup and move it upstairs and into the spare room (currently strewn across the entire lounge, being single rocks)
 

TheEvilGiraffe

South East - Essex
ClioSport Area Rep
HAHAHAHAH f**k YEAAAHHH I MADE IT WORK


f**king get in. A solid 1.5 hours on AC last night with only one crash (After I got it to work for about half an hour, I maxed out all the settings and crashed my PC lol).

Its so so good. Still definitely need some minor tweaks to get it looking how I wanted but eurgh, its so good. Being able to look 'through' an apex is so sweet too and the immersion is awesome. Can/Will loose hours on this bloody thing.

Now just to refine the setup and move it upstairs and into the spare room (currently strewn across the entire lounge, being single rocks)
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Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
Has anyone gone from the likes of the Vive 2 with the Fresnel lenses to another headset?

My VR usage is minimal due to the absolute necessity of keeping your eyes forward without the periphery view being as blurred as hell.

I just want to play a few racing games in VR without my eyesight feeling like it's 6.02am having just woken up and I didn't get in until 4am after a major beer session.
 

bozothenutter

ClioSport Club Member
Had a Pimax 5K, then got a PSVR2......and then Sony let me use it on PC....
The Pimax hasn't been out of the cupboard since!
I like the idea of the Pimax Crystal, but to fully utilise it, you'll need an RTX 6090Ti....🤣
 

McGherkin

Macca fan boiiiii
ClioSport Club Member
Has anyone gone from the likes of the Vive 2 with the Fresnel lenses to another headset?

My VR usage is minimal due to the absolute necessity of keeping your eyes forward without the periphery view being as blurred as hell.

I just want to play a few racing games in VR without my eyesight feeling like it's 6.02am having just woken up and I didn't get in until 4am after a major beer session.
I'm really close to convincing myself to go for a Quest 3. Apparently the pancake lenses are far far better than Fresnel.
I find it infuriating using the fresnel ones because a lot of what I do is down by my side and short of turning my head 90 degrees right and tipping it 90 degrees forwards a lot of what I'm trying to get to is on the edge of my vision. Plus the Rift S is like looking through a pair of binoculars anyway :ROFLMAO:
 

realnumber 1

ClioSport Club Member
Has anyone gone from the likes of the Vive 2 with the Fresnel lenses to another headset?

My VR usage is minimal due to the absolute necessity of keeping your eyes forward without the periphery view being as blurred as hell.

I just want to play a few racing games in VR without my eyesight feeling like it's 6.02am having just woken up and I didn't get in until 4am after a major beer session.

The Quest 3 pancake lenses pretty much completely eliminate that effect. They're far superior to fresnel lenses.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
I have enough JL vouchers to buy one but I just don't think I'd get enough use out of it yet. Too much money for a gadget to sit about for me! Will need to borrow my brother's to see if I will use it enough.
 

mace¬

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio
I have enough JL vouchers to buy one but I just don't think I'd get enough use out of it yet. Too much money for a gadget to sit about for me! Will need to borrow my brother's to see if I will use it enough.
It is a novelty. Glad I never paid for mine, gets a few uses by the kids and every now and then I have a round of mini golf.

Sometimes hook it up to the Sim Rig but more hassle when I want to just jump right in and I've now got the 49" ultrawide OLED for that.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
I'm really close to convincing myself to go for a Quest 3. Apparently the pancake lenses are far far better than Fresnel.
I find it infuriating using the fresnel ones because a lot of what I do is down by my side and short of turning my head 90 degrees right and tipping it 90 degrees forwards a lot of what I'm trying to get to is on the edge of my vision. Plus the Rift S is like looking through a pair of binoculars anyway :ROFLMAO:

The Quest 3 pancake lenses pretty much completely eliminate that effect. They're far superior to fresnel lenses.
IMO - the Fresnel lenses are that poor, it's strange as to why they even considered using them in manufacture? It literally is like looking out at the world while sat in the middle of a lighthouse lamp. It really isn't clear at all.

Is the Quest 3 compatible with the likes of Steam for VR, do you know?
 

McGherkin

Macca fan boiiiii
ClioSport Club Member
IMO - the Fresnel lenses are that poor, it's strange as to why they even considered using them in manufacture? It literally is like looking out at the world while sat in the middle of a lighthouse lamp. It really isn't clear at all.

Is the Quest 3 compatible with the likes of Steam for VR, do you know?
I think it was just the best they could achieve at the time. Remember VR headsets are evolving.

Yes. Steam Link for example. I'm caving and getting the Q3 as we speak lol.
 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
I think it was just the best they could achieve at the time. Remember VR headsets are evolving.

Yes. Steam Link for example. I'm caving and getting the Q3 as we speak lol.
Might make the swap myself? Looks like the Vive Pro 2 headset alone is around the £300 mark on eBay.

Looks like I'd have to go to the 512GB version for the pancake lenses - or else I'm just back into shitty FresnelLand with the lower models.

 

Darren S

ClioSport Club Member
What do people use their VR headsets for?
95% for me is for racing games. As others have said before, it's really well suited for them as you don't physically move about the room you're in.

They massively add to the experience too - glancing across at your mirrors, naturally looking towards the apex, etc. All adds to the experience. :)
 

mace¬

ClioSport Club Member
  Clio
95% for me is for racing games. As others have said before, it's really well suited for them as you don't physically move about the room you're in.

They massively add to the experience too - glancing across at your mirrors, naturally looking towards the apex, etc. All adds to the experience. :)
Yeah, that is mostly what I used mine for, blasting laps on AC but found for the short time I actually get to play, odd hour sessions it wasn’t worth the 10 minutes setup to get it working.

Agree it is awesome though, it’s the depth being able to see the apex that got me.
 

McGherkin

Macca fan boiiiii
ClioSport Club Member
I’ve found so far that driving made me quite sick but I’m hoping that’s just the Rift S being quite primitive.

Flying is just awesome in VR. You need it anyway really as most combat aircraft have some form of helmet mounted display to shoot where you look, but everything is just better in VR. The sense of depth is critical for some things, but just getting in the aircraft, taking off, and doing a 40,000 foot unrestricted climb never gets old as the earth literally falls away below you.
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
95% for me is for racing games. As others have said before, it's really well suited for them as you don't physically move about the room you're in.

They massively add to the experience too - glancing across at your mirrors, naturally looking towards the apex, etc. All adds to the experience. :)
I assumed this would be the best experience. It's very close without any heavy consumables cost and you can bang out as many laps as you want! Really much more immersive inside the car.
 

McGherkin

Macca fan boiiiii
ClioSport Club Member
So I've spent a bit more time with the Quest 3. I'm happy to report it's awesome.

Firstly, the screen is so much better than the Rift. Resolution and FOV is way better, whilst you do get a bit of aliasing in the distance (I've not really done anything to try and cancel this out yet, it's not bad enough that I've been too worried), the colours and brightness are a lot better too.

The pancake lenses make a big difference. I wouldn't say everything is pin pin sharp, but it's consistent across the lens and more than clear enough to read displays etc.

Airlink is amazing. I used to get so pissed off with the cable on the Rift and it properly broke your immersion a lot of the time when you moved your head and had a cable yanking at it. With my Virgin whatever-hub-it-is-now, it just works flawlessly.

hand tracking is pretty cool but still somewhat of a gimmick IMO. It’s fun to flip off the guy in the MiG Top Gun style but as a control method it’s not too precise nor is it intuitive yet. The controllers track way more precisely and easily.

Passthrough is pretty decent, still not what I’d call HD but good enough that you can comfortably sit in passthrough when not gaming and you can pick stuff up/walk around like you’re not even wearing it.

Actually find driving to be a lot less vomit inducing now, as long as I don’t drift/do donuts too much. That gets a bit queasy after a while. Racing is really enjoyable. And DCS is just great to fly in too.

The OS experience is really good too, I like being able to do stuff inside the headset, it’s quite polished now and the built in demos are good fun. The onboard recording and casting are great too.

Using it a lot more so far than I did my Rift. I’d almost say that I’m somewhat converted now. Just need a spicier graphics card to run stuff at full quality again.

Oh and VR p**n was s**t. Not what it was hyped up to be.
 

MLB

ClioSport Club Member
Anyone tried subnautica on a vr headset yet? That must turn it into an instant nightmare 😂
 

Gally

Formerly Mashed up egg in a cup
ClioSport Club Member
Well ended up with multiple John Lewis vouchers including ones from last year I haven't spent, so opted for the quest 3s to try. The fancier lenses won't make a massive difference to me in my trial of my brother's one.

Will let you know how it goes! Reddit has been a good source of basics and apps. Looking forward to using a few space ones with Luca. Walking on planets, he likes that stuff. Maybe even some dinosaur ones?

Free Arkham. Free meta for 3 months. I will also use it with games pass.
 


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