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throttle bodies.



Barron

Barron

ClioSport Club Member
  Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
looking at treating myself in feburary when i get my uni grant. Instead of getting a new car i think i will go for throttle bodies the question is where should i get them from?

i will fit them myself but not too sure about the wiring as it will need a standalone ecu.

can you buy all the parts seperate as i think that would probably be cheapest?

also people who have had them fitted, what are they like as a daily driver? start every time?

ta
carl
 
ditz

ditz

  LY 182
interested in this myself (the sourcing of the parts yourself)


it CAN be better than standard running/reliability wise its ALL down to how good the mapping is
 
Barron

Barron

ClioSport Club Member
  Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
ditz said:
interested in this myself (the sourcing of the parts yourself)


it CAN be better than standard running/reliability wise its ALL down to how good the mapping is
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yeah im sure i could scrape some cost off due to connections but what parts do i actually need? lol

would visit paul at RStuning so the map should be spot on :)
 
ditz

ditz

  LY 182
an inlet manifold/set of t/bs plus airbox for them
cable throttle set up
ecu
decide what you want to do with the loom, make it yourself in which case you will need various connecters etc..
 
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Laura

  AMV8, Mk1 Golf
iirc the gdi kit is cheaper then buying all the elements seprately, they also do a guide of how to fit it all yourself, and the ecu comes pre mapped so you dont need to worry about hat, ive just shelled out for my set... but im getting them fitted, just for ease and peice of mind
 
Barron

Barron

ClioSport Club Member
  Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
road car, im not putting any more power in the track car until ive done a few more track days. No point
 
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Hutchie

  alien green rs133
link plus ecu (comes with flatshift and launch control :D:D:D)
honda blackbird throttle boddies
jenvey manifold

and a tiny bit of engineering and your sorted :D

ps you have to come and look at the rally car asap its looking a propper tool :D
 
Mark One

Mark One

  ValverInBits
fraserd007 said:
gordon browns good to you
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no he's not. He's charging us (students) interest on money he stole from us to the tune of about £50 a month.

Anyways, about the bodies. I would REALLY like to see someone use bike bodies. I have heard of 2 or 3 companies that do custom manifolds for setups exactly like this at reasonable prices.
After that - you'd need some engineering on the bodies to get the spacing right + tps, standalone management (don't just be a muppet and get omex becuase it's a clio. Research and find out what's best), injectors (think not sure if the standards will be up to it - meg 225?), filter socks and your away.
 
ditz

ditz

  LY 182
could be done for well under a grand..

bogg bro's manifold
r1 bodies or similar
megasquirt
bit of home mapping

not easy, but doable
 
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Hutchie

  alien green rs133
Mark One said:
no he's not. He's charging us (students) interest on money he stole from us to the tune of about £50 a month.

Anyways, about the bodies. I would REALLY like to see someone use bike bodies. I have heard of 2 or 3 companies that do custom manifolds for setups exactly like this at reasonable prices.
After that - you'd need some engineering on the bodies to get the spacing right + tps, standalone management (don't just be a muppet and get omex becuase it's a clio. Research and find out what's best), injectors (think not sure if the standards will be up to it - meg 225?), filter socks and your away.
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our (hissingsid's) rally car uses blackbird throttle bodies, we then machined them to accept clio fuel rail ill see if i can find some pics

hutchie
 
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Hutchie

  alien green rs133
this is the old setup using a custom inlet manifold but we later found out it was costing us power so bought a jenvey one
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but you can see where the petrol injectors fit into blackbird throttle bodies, there is a tiny but of aliminium pressed into place

and a side view to show compactness :D

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Mark One

Mark One

  ValverInBits
on the custom manifold above, have you plugged the holes for the injectors?

Nice job btw, did you have it RR'd?
 
franx

franx

  RS RIP
very short trumpets there ; no experience but, after reading around, it seems the shorter they get the more torque the engine loses
 
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Hutchie

  alien green rs133
franx said:
very short trumpets there ; no experience but, after reading around, it seems the shorter they get the more torque the engine loses
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they miss the bonnet by a few mm if you can get bigger ones on and close the bonnet, ill buy you a drink
 
Mark One

Mark One

  ValverInBits
franx said:
very short trumpets there ; no experience but, after reading around, it seems the shorter they get the more torque the engine loses
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partly true. There is a specific length of trumpet for every engine that will provide maximum torque. 106 gti boys have been known to buy LHD wiper setups and cut through the bulkhead to get the correct length trumpets on.
 
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sideways danny

  ITB'd MK1
Barron said:
£2700 for just parts? hmm i doubt it
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forgetting the fact it comes with a pre-mapped ECU and a loom that needs just 5 wires splicing into the car loom. EVERY bracket, bolt, cabletie, P-clip, sensor and a full set of fitting instructions. It's far from JUST parts
 
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sideways danny

  ITB'd MK1
Mark One said:
partly true. There is a specific length of trumpet for every engine that will provide maximum torque. 106 gti boys have been known to buy LHD wiper setups and cut through the bulkhead to get the correct length trumpets on.
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they look like 90mm trumpets, which work well with Jenveys, and that setup looks a very similar overall induction length.

The 106 we prepped and mapped last week had the bulkhead modded like that when we go it. Gained 20bhp from the previous ECU and mapping which we were well pleased with :D
 
shiftspark

shiftspark

ClioSport Club Member
  R53 GR86
Im sure I have seen webber carbs modded to use as tb's I think Dave Walker of CCC mag did his own.

Has anyone fitted DCOE carbs on or isnt there enough room?
 
Barron

Barron

ClioSport Club Member
  Turbo S,Exige,R5,182
sideways danny said:
forgetting the fact it comes with a pre-mapped ECU and a loom that needs just 5 wires splicing into the car loom. EVERY bracket, bolt, cabletie, P-clip, sensor and a full set of fitting instructions. It's far from JUST parts
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dont get me wrong mate im sure its a great kit but afterall GDI is a business so i doubt they are just selling stuff at cost price because they are nice people? im sure with a list of all the stuff that is provided that i could buy everything seperate for cheaper.
 
Tom84

Tom84

  RB 182 cup
whenn i brought my tb's for my 2.0l corsa they cost me 1800 inc the management with a custom made loom so i cant see them costing much more than that as the set up is pritty much the same, well may be a few more for the cable throttle set up but im sure u can get that cheap enough
 
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