timming on my new 172

[matty172/182]

hi guys im new on hear and just got my self a 172 with cup alloys and cat back exhaust system .as i just sold my 106 gti after 2 and a half year i did have a 182 about 3 years ago and wished i never got ride of it and after driving my 172 i can see i made a big misstake .....​

anyway does any 1 now the best place to get the timming belt changed in south wales thats not to pricey i pay £1800 for the car its got service history up to 65 k but does not say about the belts being done .the guy i got it of said he had it done at 72k but no prof as he payed cash :S its on 96k now and runs very well with no faults do u think its been done? as it on this milage or do i need it done asap

thanks for ur help little pic of the 172

 

[Greeny.]

1.8k, nice, welcome btw but would defo that changed from a specialist to avoid any timing errors, afriad I dont know of anyone in your area but look to be paying around the £500 mark.

 

[DrR]

I'd go to Birchdown near Malpas. Up to you on the belts, depends if you believe him, and where did he say it was done.

 

[matty172/182]

didnt really say were just a friend done it for cash :S so dont really believe him tbh .should it of gone buy now or? il look them up thanks yes defo want some1 that knows wot they doing and as done them before £500 sound ok as its only the once it be done and should be fine then long as its done buy a specialist

 

[matty172/182]

I'd go to Birchdown near Malpas. Up to you on the belts, depends if you believe him, and where did he say it was done.

just looked them up that a little to fare for me over 4hour on the road thanks tho

 

[Evz0607]

Craig in APD near Swansea is the closest in south-wales to my knowledge.

Although most people say take it to fred which is about 2 hour drive max from cardiff ish.

 

[matty172/182]

do u have a contact for them mate so i can get it sort be a grate help thanks

 

[matty172/182]

well happy i removed the engine mount today and there is timming marks were they mark the timming :S and also a new belt so well happy 1 less job to do

 

[Fred@BTM]

^oh god, code red

 

[LIL B]

Yep.

 

[lemonnobby]

Nobody uses tipex that does a good job I've seen loads like this and the timing is wrong and the belt needs changing

 

[crazycup_racer]

Pay for it to be done again, some knob with no renault knowlege has done it

 

[matty172/182]

but timming is ok runs tidy no running faults ticks off as it should power is there thou the gears i got the felling when i seen the marks that some cowboy add is hands on it gutted but thourt it would be fine as is runs spot on .so u say to get it done again guys ?can i use the same belt and pullys or get new again ?

 

[Dave..]

Timing is not fine, guaranteed.

 

[sideways danny]

it wont be right. It can't be. It's a fussy enough procedure to get right when you know how to do it

 

[jenic]

Replace the full kits too, both cambelt and aux belt kits, can almost guarantee the aux kit wont have been changed!

 

[CuppyDean]

PMSL at tipex marks, timing wayyyy out!

 

[matty172/182]

u say the timming is way out but iv raced my mates 172 and i pull on him like a train thou the gears my 172 is much faster both thou the gears and top end also raced a 182 and there was no diffrence at all so i cnt see the timming being out at all i know the way its been done is not the right way but there is a chance the person that did do did now wot he was doing .. if it was down on power then i think good they fucked this up but it pulls very well and it tops out 145 ish easy

 

[Fred@BTM]

get it checked anyway, i went passed a lambo gallardo superleggera on track in a broken 172 running only 145bhp with 2 brave pills and some heroic driving, i didn't even realise it was broken!

 

[matty172/182]

but i raced him a few times from standing start and pulled from 2nd gear and pulled 3 cars on him all the way thou the gears its going to cost loads to just check and i really dnt think it needs doing il take it for a rolling road on tuesday and seee wot it makes and let u all now as it cheaper then getting timming checked and easyer way to find out

 

[Fred@BTM]

on your head be it, you can't f**k about with these engines, i know, i spend 50% of my time fixing other peoples **** ups with timing and belt change issues, you got £1300 for a head rebuild?

 

[CuppyDean]

I was quoted £50 from NWP for a timing check, that including cam caps, id be personally getting it checked if your saying the guy may have used tipex to change the belt, cant be done this way on these cars, needs specialist tools and some experience to do the job

 

[DannyR]

Arent they always a bit torquier when the belt is out though? Probably explains why pulling on your mates 172!

 

[matty172/182]

were is nwp buddy have u got a number for them ? it was done at 72000 its now on 90000 i would of thourt some thing would of gone wrong buy now ? imo but if it £50 il get it checked out and il roller it tuesday see if its down on power

 

[matty172/182]

Arent they always a bit torquier when the belt is out though? Probably explains why pulling on your mates 172!

but if belt is out timming is out it would not run right tick over tidy so on ???

 

[CuppyDean]

were is nwp buddy have u got a number for them ? it was done at 72000 its now on 90000 i would of thourt some thing would of gone wrong buy now ? imo but if it £50 il get it checked out and il roller it tuesday see if its down on power

NWP is near manchester bit to far from you i think, Craig@apd is your best bet hes in located in wales, common problems of incorrect timing is lumpy idle, cutting out e.t.c

 

[Jonny1*2]

What's the best way to get TIMING checked? Cost?

 

[matty172/182]

orrr just to say it was not tipex there was just 2 black dots on the casing sal he may of used these just as a guide may be ???? umm cool my car does nona of these iv done the timming on my 106 gti and other loads of times and as with any car when its not done tidy they want tick over lumpy on tick over not that when i done them they did this lol its the 1s iv redone

 

[CuppyDean]

orrr just to say it was not tipex there was just 2 black dots on the casing sal he may of used these just as a guide may be ????

You cant use anything like that, you need to use the correct cam locking tools, search on here about botched cam belt jobs, pages of horror stories, people going to garages who dont know what there doing and having the wrong equipment

 

[matty172/182]

You cant use anything like that, you need to use the correct cam locking tools, search on here about botched cam belt jobs, pages of horror stories, people going to garages who dont know what there doing and having the wrong equipment

i know wot your say buddy wot wot im trying to say is if it was not done with the right lock off tools i cant see now way of the timming being right and i got no lumpy tick off no cutting out and it been running for 18000 miles so im thinking he must of done it right ?

 

[Fred@BTM]

^no it can still seem normal even with the timing out

 

[matty172/182]

• so if timming is not done correctly it will still run spot on not cut out and not run lump ????

 

[CuppyDean]

• so if timming is not done correctly it will still run spot on not cut out and not run lump ????

Listed to Fred mate ^^^^ hes a bit of a clio genius

 

[Naith]

fella, change the belts. you got a good deal and why not make sure its right? you've been answered in here by the best Renault specialists in the UK, they know what they are talking about.

thats why i sent my car to have its belts done even when there was no sign of worry. it turned out they were 0ver 90 degree out on a car that seemed fine. the internals were ready to eat themselves.

but if not you plod on racing about and topping out at 145 mph... lol

 

[matty172/182]

^no it can still seem normal even with the timing out

so if timming is out or not done correctly it will still tick over tidy no lump tick over pull well in all gears good pull from 5000 rpm well and want cut out ???

 

[Fred@BTM]

correct, entirley possible for them to seem fine even with the timing being out

 

[Tony Hunter]

Sounds like he charged to do it,put some marks near the right places and left it alone.Just a thought.

 

[matty172/182]

ok thanks i cant see it but il get it checked and let u now thanks

 

[Fred@BTM]

specialist or dealer ONLY

 

[matty172/182]

Sounds like he charged to do it,put some marks near the right places and left it alone.Just a thought.

but th belt is brand new so its defo been done just
dont now if its been done the correct way i think it as but il get it checked out any way and rolling roaded to be safe