To 200, or to 197, that is the question.

[Darren61]

whats the difference between a standard 197 and the r27? r27 has recaros as standard i assume, but what else??

Only 500 made and came with the recaros and LSD as standard. Plus the F1 Stickers (If that's your thing - although a decal delete was possible) in commemoration of the F1 success of that year. You got a numbered plaque next to the handbrake too.

I thought they only came in LY, Black & Red but assuming someone will be able to correct or confirm?

 

[Mr Plums]

The r27s dont have lsd, the r26 megane do.

 

[Chrisgti6]

I thought they only came in LY, Black & Red but assuming someone will be able to correct or confirm?

No, they came most if not all the colours. There's one white one too.

 

[yeecup]

so basically a 197 with recaros then. meh.

 

[-speedfreak-]

I have an FF 200 in storm grey. Absolutely love it and the colour is fantastic!

I personally prefer the front of the 200 over the 197. Although given an option of an R27 I'd probably have gone for that

 

[litchy]

200 all day. All the things that annoy me about the 197 are resolved in the 200. Get the cup with Recaro's and you can't go wrong.

 

[Chrisgti6]

so basically a 197 with recaros then. meh.

Pretty much yes, it was also the first model with the Cup suspension set-up and the first time LY was available as an option.

 

[Matthew]

If money wasn't a factor, I'd personally go for the 200 in either RB or SG.

 

[jamesycc]

197 with the spoiler. 200 just looks a bit meh.. Just an opinion. See a gordini 197 on the way to work and it looks cheap imo. LY FTW :laughing:

 

[JoeMarano]

As far as im aware the r27 also has the fancy torque steer quelling struts like the Megane.

 

[Matt W]

As far as im aware the r27 also has the fancy torque steer quelling struts like the Megane.

They didn't change the suspension just for the R27!

 

[JoeMarano]

Im sure I read somewhere that only the r27 and clio 200 had the fancy struts.

 

[Chrisgti6]

All 197's and 200's had the revo-knuckle type hub carriers.

197 cup chassis was shocks and springs, red calipers and anthracite wheels
200 cup chassis was shocks and springs, quicker steering rack, red calipers, anthracite wheels and I think anti-roll bar was thicker.

 

[JoeMarano]

Perhaps it was just the r26 megane that had it then and im talking rubbish lol

 

[Chrisgti6]

Nope, all the 225/230 meganes had the same sort of set-up. The only difference with the R26 was the LSD.

All 197/200's and all Megane 225/230's had the same sort of hub set up

 

[Gaz_]

Id say the 200 was the better looking tbh.

Nah the 200 has downs compared the the 197

The only thing I wish my 197 had was the quicker rack of a 200 cupped

Oh and storm grey paint

 

[John Gordon]

Well, a little update. Been honing in on the right model. I found a reasonably priced R27..
http://www.marktplaats.nl/a/auto-s/...84ef0ece270f44503df9f8598c624&previousPage=lr
Not too keen on the black. But as a coleague said, could just get it wrapped. Its the right spec for me, however one thing puts me off. Despite the low KM's of the car. Its had a brand new engine. (not fitted by Renault) This puts me off.

Also now debating a 2.2 VX220 (Opel Speedster), however, I am worried it will feel slow compared to the Clios?

 

[Matthew]

I also would be put off by the new engine if Im being honest. I know it shouldt really matter, but it would always be in the back of my head..

Could make it harder tosell down the line too if you declare it?

 

[John Gordon]

http://www.autowereld.nl/renault/cl...-recaro-dealer-onderhouden-14065465/foto.html

Think this is the one.

 

[Knuckles]

http://www.autowereld.nl/renault/cl...-recaro-dealer-onderhouden-14065465/foto.html

Think this is the one.

Climate. Check.
No worn recaros. Check
Awesome colour. Check.

Missing stickers though

 

[Martin.]

197 all day long (especially if it's the R27)

200 is awful looking in comparison in my opinion.

 

[Matthew]

The steering wheel is on the wrong side! Must be a cat c that... :wink:

 

[John Gordon]

Hey, so. The garage states that this car has a locking differential. Did they ever come with one? I didnt think any of the clio range got one...

Options / accessories
ABS
Folding rear seats
Airbags
Air conditioning
Onboard computer
Heated exterior mirrors
Body-color bumpers
Central locking
Climate Control
Cruise control
Elek. windows
Elek. Mirrors
ESP
Tinted glass
Rear headrests
Alloy wheels
Fog lights
Radio / CD Player
Rain Sensor
Sports seats
Power steering
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[Daniel]

Nope.

 

[John Gordon]

Thought as much.

 

[Knuckles]

The only options that has are climate control and xenons

Recaros and the cup chassis come as standard on the r27 model.

The cup chassis afaik is purely stiffer and lower springs and dampers and can be retrofitted to non cup packed cars.

So the r27 just gets you the ease of already having the recaros and cup chassis, then all you need to find are the Climate and xenons... And aero kit if you're that way inclined.

 

[Daniel]

The only options that has are climate control and xenons

Recaros and the cup chassis come as standard on the r27 model.

The cup chassis afaik is purely stiffer and lower springs and dampers and can be retrofitted to non cup packed cars.

So the r27 just gets you the ease of already having the recaros and cup chassis, then all you need to find are the Climate and xenons... And aero kit if you're that way inclined.

Everything you post is now read by me in a Geordie accent.

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

Everything you post is now read by me in a Geordie accent.

I'm pissin myself right now because I just remembered what you said about when you hear someone with a Bristol accent on the news 😂😂😂

 

[Knuckles]

Everything you post is now read by me in a Geordie accent.

Touché.

 

[Daniel]

I'm pissin myself right now because I just remembered what you said about when you hear someone with a Bristol accent on the news 😂😂😂

That we sound monumentally retarded?

 

[John Gordon]

Has this had its belts done?

Service book pic.

 

[Sunglasses_Ron]

That we sound monumentally retarded?

Yeah you said that you just want them to shut the fcuk up 😂

 

[cat171]

Nah the 200 has downs compared the the 197

The only thing I wish my 197 had was the quicker rack of a 200 cupped

Oh and storm grey paint

Absolutely gorgeous!! :hearteyes::hearteyes::hearteyes:

 

[Advikaz]

Great colour combo that..

 

[Jamie]

I didn't realise the engines were made out of chocolate on 197/200's though - lots of them going bang. I only found this out the other day when reading someone's engine went at low mileage. Some fella said it was because of long stroke issues - put me off buying a 197/200.

 

[Advikaz]

I've seen that getting mentioned as well. Although to be honest I haven't actually seen any/many come up on the forum considering.

 

[John Gordon]

Well, I am now the proud owner of R27 Number 0465! I will be picking it up on the 22nd of the month, when I get back from Vegas.
Full Renault service history, 98,000 km, cam-belt done at Renault in 2013 @70,000 km. Last service in april this year, all new brakes supplied and fitted by Renault, once lady owner from new (she bought a 200T from the same dealer, traded this back in)

Monica (my old Ph1) goes off to be broken for spares tomorrow 😧

 

[Advikaz]

Looks great, love RB.

Shame about the PH1.

 

[imprezaworks]

New one looks very nice

 

[Gaz_]

I didn't realise the engines were made out of chocolate on 197/200's though - lots of them going bang. I only found this out the other day when reading someone's engine went at low mileage. Some fella said it was because of long stroke issues - put me off buying a 197/200.

It's not that common, just scaremongering IMO