Top Mounts - Ktec vs Compbrake vs AST

[sideways danny]

the stock units cause positive camber when cornering apparently! they've only been used for 25years danny, i'm sure they're not as bad as people say

I'd rather fix the pivotal point and do the setup intentionally than rely on how worn the rubber is personally

 

[JD]

No mention of castor adjustment on Kam Racing there...

They are castor and camber adjustable, trust me, I have them.

 

[JD]

Powerstation also sell these but they do not seem to be available from either company at the moment.

 

[Dan R]

Powerstation also sell these but they do not seem to be available from either company at the moment.

call curtis direct and tell him Dan told you to ring and he may give you a bit of discount His mobile number is 07951269927

 

[kev182cup]

I'm looking at the AST top mounts now cos my renna ones are squeeking on my new Clio, sum1 was asking why change well my reason is I'm
pretty sure it was the top mount that snapped causing my accident which could of and was lucky not to of been killed. Good enough reason for me.

 

[Greeny.]

Think ill be after the ast ones in a month or so, like that you can adjust caster and camber and also not have to drill the bodywork.

 

[YozzaSport]

Forget all of these & go for the Mark Fish ones - the bearings won't break.

/y0z

 

[Greeny.]

Forget all of these & go for the Mark Fish ones - the bearings won't break.

/y0z

Got a price on these?

 

[richy22]

About £250 I think??

edit actually they are £345 so I have just found out.

 

[Stava]

f**king expensive, I rang him and they are around £180 each. But Yoz is right, they won't break.

 

[Greeny.]

Cheaper to get the ast's and just replace the bearings then? Or even buy a another set and it would still be cheaper.

 

[Stava]

Mark said it depends on how hard you are on the car. If you do a lot of trackdays and give your car some hammer then your better off with his, the bearings are uber expensive ones.

However for normal road use and the odd trackday, you are better off with OEM or AST.

 

[Greeny.]

AST's for me, decent price and I can fit them myself, just need to get the car setup by FMS for trackdays, sorted.

 

[bradharding24]

The shells on these cars flex massively. Ever wondered why they start to rattle more and more as they get older? Its the shell getting more and more soggy so trim doesnt fit so well.

You might think that stiffening up the front is a good idea, but how does it effect the flex in the shell? About the only thing keeping the back end attached to the front are the sills and the exhaust tunnel on a standard car. And thats thin metal.

The more you take flex out of the suspension, the more you transfer to the shell.

Personally i cant see any advantage to running solid top mounts unless you sort the shell first. In other words, it's a complete waste of time on a road car.

 

[Greeny.]

The shells on these cars flex massively. Ever wondered why they start to rattle more and more as they get older? Its the shell getting more and more soggy so trim doesnt fit so well.

You might think that stiffening up the front is a good idea, but how does it effect the flex in the shell? About the only thing keeping the back end attached to the front are the sills and the exhaust tunnel on a standard car. And thats thin metal.

The more you take flex out of the suspension, the more you transfer to the shell.

Personally i cant see any advantage to running solid top mounts unless you sort the shell first. In other words, it's a complete waste of time on a road car.

What would you do to stiffen up the shell in that case? Full cage I take it?

 

[bradharding24]

What would you do to stiffen up the shell in that case? Full cage I take it?

Seam weld it, cage or weld some bars across from the sill to the front chassis rail.

Im not that up on Mk2 shells but from what ive seen they arnt much better than mk1 shells.

 

[Adamio]

Forget all of these & go for the Mark Fish ones - the bearings won't break.

/y0z

Got these on mine and can't fault them

 

[y0z2a]

Mark Fish ones - the bearings alone cost the same prices as the compbrake complete kit.

Quality usually costs...

Think about it.

/y0z

 

[Kam.]

Powerstation also sell these but they do not seem to be available from either company at the moment.

we should have some of the AST top mounts shortly..

 

[Kam.]

in fact we've just had a whole load delivered

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/renault-...pmounts-renault-clio-mk2-rs-inc-cup-1523.html

 

[pablo_ni]

they are beautiful!

 

[bradharding24]

in fact we've just had a whole load delivered

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/renault-...pmounts-renault-clio-mk2-rs-inc-cup-1523.html

I assuming that these bolt to the underside of the strut turret? In which case they will change the hight of the upper suspension mounting point and necessitate shorter springs.

Does this lowering allow the dampers to work within their normal range? Im assuming it would?

 

[Greeny.]

The ast ones been redesigned? They are gold on Kam racings site not orange!? Anyone know the reasons for the change.

 

[Kam.]

The ast ones been redesigned? They are gold on Kam racings site not orange!? Anyone know the reasons for the change.

its just how the orange has come out on the picture. the only difference from before is that they come ready to fit any strut now rather than needing machining for specific brands of damper

 

[bradharding24]

its just how the orange has come out on the picture. the only difference from before is that they come ready to fit any strut now rather than needing machining for specific brands of damper

I noticed youve changed the picture on the website regarding my question.

 

[Kam.]

I noticed youve changed the picture on the website regarding my question.

If it has helped that was my intention, otherwise it was just a coincidence with us having stock and finally managing to get away from the default top mount image used on our site :rasp:

 

[chrispy.clio]

There seems to be quite a few people wanting the AST topmounts (me included)

Could anyone offer a Group Buy?

 

[kev182cup]

I want some so I would be up for a group buy on the AST's.

 

[K-Tec Racing]

we have about 10 sets left out of the 1st 100 now...

 

[stuart1989]

Ive just ordered some K-Tec ones

 

[Whisker biscuit]

Whats peoples opinions on top mounts ? Can u really notice the difference ?

 

[stuart1989]

Whats peoples opinions on top mounts ? Can u really notice the difference ?

I bloody hope so for 170bar!

 

[Whisker biscuit]

I bloody hope so for 170bar!

Mate I have a set and theres nothing jumping out at me to say 'I ahve solid top mounts'

 

[stuart1989]

:\ this isnt good news

 

[nick.]

Where can you buy ast top mounts from? I would be interested in a set when I get paid to go with the collies

 

[chrispy.clio]

Whats peoples opinions on top mounts ? Can u really notice the difference ?

YES!!! You will deffently notic the difference. I fitting AST solid topmounts the other week.

Old top mount are like steering with a loose piece of string
AST top mounts are like steering with a tight piece of string.

You'll only really understand the difference when you go from old to new.

 

[chrispy.clio]

Where can you buy ast top mounts from? I would be interested in a set when I get paid to go with the collies

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-disc...-cup-1524.htmlhttp://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-disc...-cup-1524.html

I bought mine from this link

 

[stuart1989]

Hmm seems difference opinions and experience here.. Ill just have to wait and see what they feel like with the new Sportlines

 

[nick.]

http://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-disc...-cup-1524.htmlhttp://www.kamracing.co.uk/club-disc...-cup-1524.html

I bought mine from this link

Thank you m8y

 

[Whisker biscuit]

In all honesty I only had the car for a few weeks before fitting them so maybe i havnt noticed the full effect