toyosport 197 fitment issues

[lovell]

hi all,

i purchased a toyosport manifold to replace the standard as the flexis had gone on the original, got it fitted friday and had a call to say there was a problem with how close it comes to the crossmember touching on idle. i have uprated all the engine mounts to powerflex to remove the roll from the engine as i had been advised to do. how have people tweeked the manifold to fit? can it be done on the car? any advice appreciated thanks james
picture below to show how close it has become.

 

[R3k1355]

The stuff on other Clio's has terrible fitment, so it's no surprise the 197 stuff isn't a great deal better.

 

[flebay]

Send it back to china for refund from the 8 year old that made it.

 

[lovell]

yep picked up the origional today that has had new flexis welded in and this ones going back where it came from

 

[Gaz_]

They w**k over these on 197.net, these and sprint boosters......

I've never been convinced due to the price.

New set of flexies in the standard unit is the away to go

 

[Chris91]

W**k over them lol?

The problem is with new flexi's is that they can go also. The standard manifold can also go on the flanges at the top that go into the block. This manifold is better on most cars, just some have fitment issues with them.

 

[Knuckles]

I'm sure I've read of people notching the chassis or whatever it fouls on to accommodate the badly fitting toyosport.

 

[Chrisgti6]

They w**k over these on 197.net, these and sprint boosters......

I've never been convinced due to the price.

New set of flexies in the standard unit is the away to go

Ahh yes, the good old sprint booster

"fitted a sprint booster, car feels much faster" well yes, that's bcause you now get full trottle at 50% pedal travel. Take off the sprint booster and mash your foot to the floor and you'll get the same experience!

 

[cliovirgin]

Surely adjusting the upper engine mount ( torque arm ) a few mm, would move the engine a few digrees, to give the clearence needed.

 

[lovell]

Will be in contact with toyosport tomorrow as they've messaged me saying heat the manifold and bend it to fit the mechanic has said he will but I first want to know if they'll except the manifold back if this doesn't work (cracks) as I don't want a shagged manifold and them not to accept it back

 

[Knuckles]

Ahh yes, the good old sprint booster

"fitted a sprint booster, car feels much faster" well yes, that's bcause you now get full trottle at 50% pedal travel. Take off the sprint booster and mash your foot to the floor and you'll get the same experience!

Did you hear about the one that stuck on and jammed the throttle on lol?

Will be in contact with toyosport tomorrow as they've messaged me saying heat the manifold and bend it to fit the mechanic has said he will but I first want to know if they'll except the manifold back if this doesn't work (cracks) as I don't want a shagged manifold and them not to accept it back

Wow.

"Yeah, erm, if you could just finish our job for us, that'd be swell"

 

[lovell]

Yep think if it was me selling the manifold I'd be quite embarrassed to sell a product lacking that much quality to need to tell the buyer to bend it into shape

 

[Daveynufc]

Ive got a similar problem on my 197, tapping off subframe with a new aftermarket manifold i put on. My old manifold i scapped though as it was cracked all over the top but i really need this sorted! Have any luck with yours or did you put the kriginal back on?

 

[lovell]

in the end i got it heated up and bent away from the subframe has stopped it rattling under idle but very heavy load when the traction control kicks in it can still hit which is a bit annoying.

 

[MicKPM]

They're s**t, don't fit them... I refuse to now. Buy the KTR unit or have your original repaired and the engine mounts replaced/upgraded.

 

[lovell]

agree 100% now only downside is the £400 price difference

 

[Gaz_]

Get what you pay for I suppose!

 

[lovell]

fair point. with all the messing around i had to do and the inconvenience of not having a car for best part of a week due to figuring out what was needed to be done along with the extra labour costs it probably closed the gap in price considerably

 

[MicKPM]

The KTR is brilliant though and fits first time... worth the extra £££'s

Mick

 

[Daveynufc]

Ive just had that done to mine now, heated up and bent in but still no difference tbh.. Are the engine mounts expensive to change? See if it has an effect if i replace them.. What a carry on mind! Haha

 

[MicKPM]

I'd just sack it off chap, they're utter shite! Next thing is you'll replace the mounts (at around £200 in parts) and then 12-18 months down the line the shitty Toyo will have broken somewhere (Normally at the slip ring joint to the Post-CAT) or it'll knock its tits off and drive you insane to the point you get rid of the car.

It's not cheap but just swallow it (I tried that line with the wife on Monday and got shot down)

 

[lovell]

mines already blowing its tits off and under full load (heavy acceleration) it hammers its self off the cross member even with bending and all 3 engine mounts+ gearbox mount.

 

[Typhoon]

It's not cheap but just swallow it (I tried that line with the wife on Monday and got shot down)

Funny you should say that..

On topic; Toyosport replacements are awful.

 

[MicKPM]

At the minute, the KTR unit is looking like the best alternative to the Renault unit, which is double the price and still nigh on impossible to source. The only other alternative is to replace broken flexible sections on your existing manifold.

What ever you do though, replace the worn engine mounts as they are the reason the manifold has failed

 

[Martin_172]

That ktr one looks like a nice piece of kit, I've just got a good condition OE Renault one, new fitting kit/gasket and engine mounts for mine as the flexi has gone, but I'm tempted to order the ktr, assume a remap is required due to a flat spot after it?

 

[lovell]

not noticed a flat spot in mine since fitting

 

[MicKPM]

A remap would make the most of the new pipe but it's not essential

 

[Yiannis197]

Resurrecting an old thread but no point starting a new one really.
K-Tec has revised the design of the manifold (it now has flexis as opposed to mk1). Is that to say that the mk1 would suffer from any issues i.e. cracking to the joints?

Thanks

 

[lovell]

Just looks like they've made it easier to manufacture. Also less costly on their part having only one standard flexi meaning more profit.