I couldnt agree more with you. Just add the building quality of the entire cabin (just awfull), lack of refinement and space although its a middle range car. Compare to mkII 2.0 16v, I believe it has better gear box (better feeling), but lack of torque in low-middle rpms. You have to keep rpms above 5000. That is not good for me....Also the steering wheel give you no feeling despite the fact that it has huge wheels and tires.Quote: Originally posted by black-cat on 01 October 2002
I had exactly the same awkward decision.
My brother has had a mk1 172 for over a year now and absolutely loved it. As I didnt want to be a copy-cat I considered a CTR, 206 Gti 180, and even second hand subarus, deltas and evos.
After I took I test-drive in a CTR, I like everyone else was mightily impressed with the engine, I loved the alloy wheels and thought the car was brilliant overall. However some bad points are the uncomfortable seats (the back seat is basically a hard bench and the fronts even though they look fantastic are more uncomfortable than the conteaus in my weekend rallycar). The lack of good standard equipment is also a minus point as well as the remarkably high quality but slightly tacky interior.
In the end I opted for a new 172, I basically chickened out. I am however deliriously happy with it (even though it understeers like a ba%^&%d!)
Quote: Originally posted by Jock_071279 on 02 October 2002
dont think you can compare the CTR to the Cup in terms of equipment all because of its lack of aircon.... the CTR comes with all the saftey features (ABS, EPS and front and side airbags) and the cup doesnt ..... im in the situation where i am going to buy a new car....and the reason that i dont want the cup is because of no ABS.... dont think it is safe to have no ABS on a car with that kind of power.......
You shouldnt rely on ABS to stop you. You should know how to stop without it. My ABS never came on in my old 172 therefore if I hadnt had it I would never have locked up either and I havent locked up the cup and if I had I would know how to deal with it.