Ubuntu - a good Linux client?

[Final Maxim]

reburning at slowest speed nero will do 8x

 

[ViolentJ]

Nero really is shite, hopefully 8x will be slow enough but 4x and under is normally recommended for burning ISO's.

My offer still stands of posting you a 7.04 CD - no costs involved.

 

[KDF]

Good job on the checksums.. now you know your download was perfect. Pitty 8x is the slowest but should be ok.

Ubuntu has an inbuilt disk checker you can use to verify the burn is OK also nero can do a data verification for you.

 

[KDF]

My offer still stands of posting you a 7.04 CD - no costs involved.

Did you buy them from Ubuntu ?

 

[Final Maxim]

cheers J, ill give this a blast today and have a play, if not ill take you up on your offer.

if this burn dont work ill try using discjuggler as im sure that lets me burn 2x 4x etc

 

[Final Maxim]

right, burn successful at 8x.

log=

Dan

1C82-0000-19E5-MAAX-4001-4118-****

Windows XP 6.0
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 02/11/2004 12:54:32

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 7.5.9.0
Internal Version: 7, 5, 9, 0
(Nero Express)
Recorder: <TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S183A>Version: SB02 - HA 1 TA 0 - 7.5.9.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ?
CD-ROM: <ZB4900S VVN854O >Version: 1.0 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.5.9.0
Adapter driver: <SCSI> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : ZB4900S VVN854O 1.0 ae31kq9g Port 7 ID 0 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S183A E: CDRom0
ZB4900S VVN854O F: CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2046MB (2095680kB)
Free physical memory: 1235MB (1265396kB)
Memory in use : 39 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

2.9.2007
CD Image
14:54:12 #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 411
LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

14:54:13 #2 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3149
TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S183A
Super Link activated

14:54:13 #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3451
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

14:54:13 #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 306
Last possible write address on media: 359848 ( 79:59.73)
Last address to be written: 357322 ( 79:26.22)

14:54:13 #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 318
Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)

14:54:13 #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2903
Recorder: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S183A;
CDR code: 00 97 27 18; OSJ entry from: Plasmon Data systems Ltd.
ATIP Data:
Special Info [hex] 1: D0 00 A0, 2: 61 1B 12 (LI 97:27.18), 3: 4F 3B 4A (LO 79:59.74)
Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 80 (invalid), 2: 00 80 00 (invalid), 3: 00 80 80 (invalid)

14:54:13 #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 490
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

14:54:13 #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 821
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (2 - CD-ROM Mode 1, Joliet)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 357323 (357323) = #357323/79:24.23
not relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 357323 blocks [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S183A]
--------------------------------------------------------------

14:54:13 #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1024
Prepare [E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S183A] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 307200 732104704, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
-150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
-150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 357323 | 357173 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 357323 | 357323 | 0x00
357323 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

14:54:13 #10 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 209
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

14:54:13 #11 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1746
Caching of files started

14:54:13 #12 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4278
Cache writing successful.

14:54:13 #13 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1746
Caching of files completed

14:54:13 #14 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1746
Burn process started at 8x (1,200 KB/s)

14:54:13 #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2743
Verifying disc position of item 0 (not relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

14:54:13 #16 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17552
StartDAO : CD-Text - Off

14:54:13 #17 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 22179
Set BUFE: Super Link -> ON

14:54:13 #18 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17780
CueData, Len=32
41 00 00 14 00 00 00 00
41 01 00 10 00 00 00 00
41 01 01 10 00 00 02 00
41 aa 01 14 00 4f 1a 17

15:04:40 #19 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
<E: TSSTcorp CD/DVDW SH-S183A> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 357323 (573CBh), length 0 blocks

15:04:58 #20 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1746
Burn process completed successfully at 8x (1,200 KB/s)

15:04:59 #21 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 254
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

15:05:02 #22 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 10467
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

15:05:02 #23 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 411
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=6.4.645.100 (NT.051018-1332), size=98408 bytes, created 02/11/2006 10:50:35
File 'Drivers\scsiport.sys': Ver=6.0.6000.16386 (vista_rtm.061101-2205), size=140392 bytes, created 02/11/2006 10:50:59 (Adapter driver for src)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon

 

[Final Maxim]

right, tried that disc and it just brings up this

 

[KDF]

Your system is not attempting to boot from the CD.

 

[ViolentJ]

My offer still stands of posting you a 7.04 CD - no costs involved.

Did you buy them from Ubuntu ?

No mate, they're free. Just take FOREVER to come and they only offer CD's for certain releases.

https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

 

[Final Maxim]

ok heres a better idea, lets say the cdrom is buggered (even though it isnt).

how do i set it up so i use my SATA dvdrw instead?

my problem was that in the pc i have a SATA dvdrw and im trying to install ubuntu onto an IDE harddrive.

in the boot order menu, my dvdrw isnt coming up in the list, only my IDE harddrive is, so i cant boot from my sata dvdrw when my IDE harddrive is present. why?

if i can get my bios to read my sata dvd drive when my IDE harddrive is plugged in i can boot from that and try it that way. its like as soon as i plug an ide thing in it priorortises to it

 

[Final Maxim]

RIGHT, were in. LOL

on ubuntu now.

first impression? looks like s**t / windows 95.

im sure i can get it looking alot better though with a few tweeks.

right, where do i start. what should i be doing first?

what drivers do i download for my nvidia geforce 8800gts?

 

[ViolentJ]

First things first - are you running it as a live session or have you actually installed it properly?

 

[Final Maxim]

how do i tell?

 

[Final Maxim]

theres also 119 updates, shall i update the lot?

 

[ViolentJ]

how do i tell?

Are you sure you want to try Linux? lol

Did you go through an installation and setup wizard?

 

[Final Maxim]

oh, yeah did all that, it all installed

 

[ViolentJ]

Ok, yes install all of the updates.

 

[Final Maxim]

when im shrinking firefox windows, they dissapear into nowhere and im having to reload firefox everytime i shrink.

how do i get my stuff to shrink into my desktop bar at the bottom like in windows?

 

[ViolentJ]

Sounds like your window list is missing.

Right click on where you want it and choose "add to panel" then choose "window list"

 

[Final Maxim]

sorted, ty.

which graphics drivers support ubuntu?

 

[ViolentJ]

I'm not sure if the ubuntu nvidia drivers package supports the 8800gts or not, hopefully it does as that's the easiest way to install it.

Go to System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers Manager

Is the nvidia driver listed? Is so, choose to install it.

 

[KDF]

Did you buy them from Ubuntu ?

No mate, they're free. Just take FOREVER to come and they only offer CD's for certain releases.

https://shipit.ubuntu.com/

Ah, thats rings a bell now you mention it.. remember thinking should I or not heh.. decided to save them money and just burn my own

 

[KDF]

Just re-done the nvidia drivers on my system as i've just installed compiz fusion

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_ImW0-MgR8I


It rocks !!



PS. Gnome does look very plain initially.. just visit http://gnome-look.org or install compiz fusion after you setup your nvidia drivers for some serious eye candy (see youtube link)

 

[Final Maxim]

not impressed at all so far.

just installed the driver that was on the list, it installed, asked for system reboot, i rebooted and i got a BSOD pmsl.

one sec and ill upload the pics.

im currently having to run it live in safe graphics mode.

i cant log into the installed version as it asks me to enter my username in a dos style black and white screen, then it asks for password and it wont even let me enter my password at all.

new install i think?

 

[KDF]

No.. not a new install !

Its quite frustrating as I can fix it in 2 seconds but to explain takes ages !

just a case of downloading driver from nvidia, droping to a terminal running the nvidia installed in sudo, letting it compile the module the restarting the GDM.

 

[Final Maxim]

 

[Final Maxim]

cant enter password, doesnt let me, only thing it recognises is the enter key but then it goes back to asking for my login

 

[ViolentJ]

Shouldn't have failed, only thing I can think is the package didn't support 8800gts, but then I wouldn't have expected it to be listed in the restricted drivers manager.

To get back into a GUI you'd have to reboot, press ESCAPE when prompted by GRUB.
Choose the second option - safe or whatever they call it now.
Wait for it to prompt you to login, if it doesn't just type login.
Login.
Type sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf (it's case sensitive)
enter password.
Scroll down to Section "Device" and change driver from nvidia which it should be on now to nv.
press CTRL O to overwirte.
CTRL X to exit
CTRL ALT DEL to reboot.

They're hoping to have bullet proof X in Gutsy's release, it should put a stop to this kind of thing.

 

[Final Maxim]

looking good so far for you linux geeks isnt it?

cmon lads redeem yourselves. fresh install?

 

[ViolentJ]

Nothing to redeem, it's all part of the fun!

 

[Final Maxim]

so how do i fix this?

vista wasnt fun, vista was just put in, partition, install, install drivers, done.

this is taking the piss so far.

 

[ollie]

Sack it off :rasp:

Stick with what you know best

 

[Final Maxim]

right ima go clean the guinea pigs as this is boring me atm.

i found this which is supposed to sort the problem with 8800gts, apparantly loads of people have the problem.

How I got the latest NVIDIA 100.14.11 drivers installed

Tip: press <TAB> to complete long file or directory names where possible, ie. NVIDIA<TAB>

1) Download the latest driver from www.nvidia.com, and save it to your home directory, eg. ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run

2) Exit out of Gnome by pressing <CTRL-ALT-F6>, login at the prompt, and type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (Gnome should stop).

3) Backup your current xorg.conf file: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup.conf

4) Enter the following commands:
sudo apt-get remove nvidia* linux-restricted-modules*
sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) \ build-essential pkg-config xorg-dev
sudo sh ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
Follow prompts, selecting Y or ACCEPT to everything (ignore any warnings such as 'Unable to check for libGL.so.1')

5) Extract the libwfb files from the Nvidia driver package: sh ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run -x

Copy the wfb module over:
cd ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg2/usr/X11R6/lib/modules
sudo cp libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 /usr/lib/xorg/modules

Change directories and create a link:
cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules
sudo ln -s libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 libwfb.so

6) Fix the lrm-video file:
cd /etc/modprobe.d
sudo chmod go=rw lrm-video
sudo vim lrm-video
Comment out the 'nvidia' line by pressing the following keys in this order:
<DOWN> <DOWN> i # <ESC><ESC> : x <ENTER>
To examine the edited file, type:
cat lrm-video
It should now look like this:
install fglrx /sbin/lrm-video fglrx $CMDLINE_OPTS
#install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS
install nvidia_legacy /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS
install nvidia_new /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_new $CMDLINE_OPTS

Change permissions back to read-only with:
sudo chmod go=r lrm-video

7) Now restart Gnome with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start (You should hopefully see an Nvidia logo flash on screen).
NB. At this point my top taskbar disappeared, so I pressed Alt-F2 (Run App) and chose Terminal to open a window)

You may see a warning about (not) using 'restricted drivers' - click to get rid of it.

Open a terminal prompt and type sudo nvidia-settings

Click on the 'X Server Display Configuration' option, then set your resolution and colour depth as appropriate. (If you set it to 'auto', it should switch to your max.
resolution automatically). NB: I was in high res at this point, and it detected my monitor, but the screen was quite fuzzy / badly aliased. Continue anyway.

Don't forget to click on the 'Save to X Configuration File' button to make sure your settings are stored for next time.

8) If you know what you're doing, you might want to tidy up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file at this point, removing the old & now unwanted monitor, device & screen sections.
From the terminal prompt, type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

As a rough guide, keep the sections with the identifiers 'Monitor0', 'Videocard0' and 'Screen0'. (Or leave it alone (which is what I did); it still seems to work OK).


lot of talk about ubuntu but no walking as of yet, a big let down for me.

 

[KDF]

Like I said its easy to fix.. but your gonna need to be able to log into your own machine lol ! log into the text terminal and edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file as Simon mentioned, or install the proper binary from Nvidia by doing the following.

sudo apt-get install wget

wget http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/100.14.11/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run

sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run

follow on screen instructions, it will complain about not finding a pre-compiled module for your kernel but will then tell you it will build a custom one for you, after that it will ask if you want it to create your xorg.conf file.. say yes then once you back out type the following command

sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart

You will see a nice Nvidia splash logo just before you are presented with the graphical login screen.. How easy was that !! and you dont even have to reboot the machine !

There is a learning curve for sure.. but you get a smile on your face when you figure it out and you will gain a deep understaning of just how an operating system works !



PS. I personally beleive the people that use linux are people who don't just give up the first small hurdle the come across... I have a system in my work that is a shitty fujitsu desktop with shitty ram and shitty everything, it gets used daily as a small server system and currently has an uptime (not rebooted) in over a year and is running like it did on day one !

 

[Final Maxim]

i am keen to learn and i like to give stuff a go.

right, these codes, where do i start to enter them?

 

[Final Maxim]

right im gonna just reinstall, its easier for me then ill try this different driver.

when i turn on the machine i get a countdown 2 1 0 and some text like hit Esc to enter GRUB or something.

is GRUB like the ubuntu bios or something?

 

[ViolentJ]

GRUB is the bootloader (GRand Unified Bootloader)

Don't worry about reinstalling. When I first started out, the ubuntu CD was permanently in my drive lol

 

[Final Maxim]

How I got the latest NVIDIA 100.14.11 drivers installed

Tip: press <TAB> to complete long file or directory names where possible, ie. NVIDIA<TAB>

1) Download the latest driver from www.nvidia.com, and save it to your home directory, eg. ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run

2) Exit out of Gnome by pressing <CTRL-ALT-F6>, login at the prompt, and type: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (Gnome should stop).

3) Backup your current xorg.conf file: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg_backup.conf

4) Enter the following commands:
sudo apt-get remove nvidia* linux-restricted-modules*
sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) \ build-essential pkg-config xorg-dev
sudo sh ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run
Follow prompts, selecting Y or ACCEPT to everything (ignore any warnings such as 'Unable to check for libGL.so.1')

5) Extract the libwfb files from the Nvidia driver package: sh ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run -x

Copy the wfb module over:
cd ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg2/usr/X11R6/lib/modules
sudo cp libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 /usr/lib/xorg/modules

Change directories and create a link:
cd /usr/lib/xorg/modules
sudo ln -s libnvidia-wfb.so.100.14.11 libwfb.so

6) Fix the lrm-video file:
cd /etc/modprobe.d
sudo chmod go=rw lrm-video
sudo vim lrm-video
Comment out the 'nvidia' line by pressing the following keys in this order:
<DOWN> <DOWN> i # <ESC><ESC> : x <ENTER>
To examine the edited file, type:
cat lrm-video
It should now look like this:
install fglrx /sbin/lrm-video fglrx $CMDLINE_OPTS
#install nvidia /sbin/lrm-video nvidia $CMDLINE_OPTS
install nvidia_legacy /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_legacy $CMDLINE_OPTS
install nvidia_new /sbin/lrm-video nvidia_new $CMDLINE_OPTS

Change permissions back to read-only with:
sudo chmod go=r lrm-video

7) Now restart Gnome with sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start (You should hopefully see an Nvidia logo flash on screen).
NB. At this point my top taskbar disappeared, so I pressed Alt-F2 (Run App) and chose Terminal to open a window)

You may see a warning about (not) using 'restricted drivers' - click to get rid of it.

Open a terminal prompt and type sudo nvidia-settings

Click on the 'X Server Display Configuration' option, then set your resolution and colour depth as appropriate. (If you set it to 'auto', it should switch to your max.
resolution automatically). NB: I was in high res at this point, and it detected my monitor, but the screen was quite fuzzy / badly aliased. Continue anyway.

Don't forget to click on the 'Save to X Configuration File' button to make sure your settings are stored for next time.

8) If you know what you're doing, you might want to tidy up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file at this point, removing the old & now unwanted monitor, device & screen sections.
From the terminal prompt, type sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf

As a rough guide, keep the sections with the identifiers 'Monitor0', 'Videocard0' and 'Screen0'. (Or leave it alone (which is what I did); it still seems to work OK).

ok, reinstalled and updated

on a plus side ubuntu does install in half the time as vista does.

2 questions, these codes sudo apt-get remove nvidia* linux-restricted-modules*
sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) \ build-essential pkg-config xorg-dev
sudo sh ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run

do i type these in line by line and press enter after each one or do i type them all in bulk and hit enter?

2nd question, do i need to write all of that down or isit possible to get into where i enter these codes while being online browsing the net?

cheers

 

[ViolentJ]

Print them out

One line at a time and press enter.

 

[Final Maxim]

1) Download the latest driver from www.nvidia.com, and save it to your home directory, eg. ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg1.run

where it says ~/NVIDIA

do i change the ~ to my location where its downloaded to, for example on vista itd be c:/NVIDIA ?

also here cd ~/NVIDIA-Linux-x86-100.14.11-pkg2/usr/X11R6/lib/modules

do i get rid of the ~ and type in what my location is?

ta