This !!! A good well cared for Clio will be good to drive against a dog of one which will feel shite. There are plenty of us on here with good cars and enjoy them. I would drive a few mate and possibly a 172 cup to feel a rangeWho did the timing belt last? If it was done improperly then you can lose quite a significant amount of power.
Were you driving a 182 Cup or the normal 182?
This !!! A good well cared for Clio will be good to drive against a dog of one which will feel shite. There are plenty of us on here with good cars and enjoy them. I would drive a few mate and possibly a 172 cup to feel a range
it's comments like this that entice me to the car, you have a Porsche but you love driving the Clio 182.My toy car is a Cayman R which is probably one of the best road chassis of any type and at any price that I’ve driven.
However I still fought like crazy to try and get my old original 182 back. Yeah I could have something much nicer to drive every day, but for me it’s still the most enjoyable hot hatch out there.
Old French box and I absolutely love it. 😅
Yeah they are in budget, I just don't like them. I might have a look at one but doubt I would want to own one.As an alternative suggestion OP, a Celica T-Sport/190/VVTL-i is within your budget and is likely to be cheaper to run than the equivalent Honda, Audi or Renault.
I'm not sure either! I was really expecting to enjoy driving it but i felt it was a bit numb. The steering was very uninvolving, I'm not sure if that is partly down to the wheel, wouldnt think so though.I can’t fathom how someone can drive a 172/182 and not get out of it smiling ear to ear.
Smiles per mile... The best car on the used market.
Good shout, and will just be just as quick as a Clio. T-sport is a must though as most of the older 190's are dust these days. Had to scrap mine due to terminal rust.As an alternative suggestion OP, a Celica T-Sport/190/VVTL-i is within your budget and is likely to be cheaper to run than the equivalent Honda, Audi or Renault.
Thanks. Had a look at some of the videos - I will look further into the octavia. Though it's still a bit big for my liking.
Your MR2 looks fantastic. Wish Toyota had sold them with that engine... though they wouldnt be a £1500 car now if that was the case
Thanks. Had a look at some of the videos - I will look further into the octavia. Though it's still a bit big for my liking.
Your MR2 looks fantastic. Wish Toyota had sold them with that engine... though they wouldnt be a £1500 car now if that was the case
I will try to drive another. The test drive route wasn't great, just round a town then one straight 60mph road, that was it.
I'm not sure how cheap/expensive running costs would be on a TT but at least you dont have to pay £600 for a belt (i dont think!)
@massivewangers your last sentence is exactly the thing.. I do not need to fall in love with the car upon trying it as I'm sure it would grow on me and clearly, 90% of 182 owners love their cars to bits so it must be doing something right.
Puma are all very rusty I do believe, and being an ex-MX-5 owner, rust is my #1 red flag against buying a car.
I would like to say... I am not particularly drawn to the TT. The clio 182 was/is my "preferred" car prior to trying any of the cars - due to its simple, lightweight, nimble recipe.
If that clio hasn't had a belt change in 15 years I'd bet my right leg all the rubber bushes are original too. And no matter how low the mileage 15 year old rubber just isn't going to do the job right! Test drive some more and if you can find a private sale one with history and a caring owner, that will give you a better experience I think.I'm not sure either! I was really expecting to enjoy driving it but i felt it was a bit numb. The steering was very uninvolving, I'm not sure if that is partly down to the wheel, wouldnt think so though.
I'll definitely buy from a private seller as I don't trust traders in the slightest and they charge more. But it's a lot easier to test drive at a trader as most private sellers don't allow test drives. Even though I do have fully comp insurance for anyone else's car.If that clio hasn't had a belt change in 15 years I'd bet my right leg all the rubber bushes are original too. And no matter how low the mileage 15 year old rubber just isn't going to do the job right! Test drive some more and if you can find a private sale one with history and a caring owner, that will give you a better experience I think.
Where are u from mate ? I have polysbushed the whole car replaced brakes suspension springs calipers had belts done some mods and a map at 190bhp ur welcome to have a go in mine and guaranteed it would change your opinion being in a well sorted Clio 👍I'll definitely buy from a private seller as I don't trust traders in the slightest and they charge more. But it's a lot easier to test drive at a trader as most private sellers don't allow test drives. Even though I do have fully comp insurance for anyone else's car.
that is very kind of you. I am in Cambridge - if you are in wolverhampton then it's a bit far but thank you nonetheless.Where are u from mate ? I have polysbushed the whole car replaced brakes suspension springs calipers had belts done some mods and a map at 190bhp ur welcome to have a go in mine and guaranteed it would change your opinion being in a well sorted Clio 👍
No problem mate I know social distancing is a thing but that’s a bit far lol good luck and keep us updated on how you get on. Bear in mind the lack of low down torque can be sorted with a decent remap which makes them more responsive at lower revsthat is very kind of you. I am in Cambridge - if you are in wolverhampton then it's a bit far but thank you nonetheless.
Thanks to current events I have some time off work so I've got time to go look at other cars around. I'll test out at least one more so I know for sure how I feel about it.
They always come back 👍🤣.I have quite a few clios over the years. Few track based ones etc.
They were a great car back then but I would probably never go back to one (unless it was mint etc, which is very rare.)
In comparison to new stuff they will probably feel quite flat. But the newer story is boring.
it's comments like this that entice me to the car, you have a Porsche but you love driving the Clio 182.
@neil a has a Ferrari and a McLaren. Guess what his track car is....heavily modified mind lol
I dont have the track car anymore have a trophy road car now but to be honest ive bought that as much as an investment as to actually use, but it is still fun to drive something very analogue and not overly fast for on the road
The green car was a serious spec but for what i had in it , i could of bought a track spec E46 M3 and probably had a faster car.
For me the real plus for 182's is as a basic budget track car , mainly as parts to keep them running are fairly cheap and while not overly fast on track they are fun to drive, much like 106's and Saxos were years ago but now the parts and prices of them are on the way up.
The other issue you have here are the very nature of the “test drive”. The route plays a huge part and let’s be honest, youll struggle to know a car within a 15 minute test drive anyway.
I had similar when my dad went to buy a Aston Martin Vantage Gen2.
Personally I adore the looks of them and was excited to drive it, I mean it’s a bloody Aston Martin!! However, spend 20 min in one and you’ll find everything you hate about it.
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It’s a wonderful GT car with bags of character that I would have otherwise overlooked on a 20 min test drive. If it wasn’t for the hideous servicing costs I’d be tempted myself.
Don’t think I’m saying a 15 year old Clio is the last word in the automobile, it really isn’t. But pedal a good one on a twisty road and you will be in a little bit of driving heaven and there’s good reason why even 15 years on, they’re still so respected.
That's one of the things that appeals to me, being able to enjoy a car on track without worrying about it costing me a fortune.
I completely agree with you - you cannot get a good feel of a car in just 15 minutes. Which is why I have not discounted it, as I believe the scores of people who love their 182s outweighs my "meh" response to the test drive.
On a different note... how easy is it to sort out the driving position? Can it only be done by putting buckets in (and is that easy?).
Also, I found the pedal setup quite uncomfortable, do other people share this too?
Probably had some of the most fun in a car in my 182 and I've only owned it since November. The car it replaced was a 2013 Golf GTI PP. The driving position and the fact its a bit more tiresome on a longer trip are the only points I dislike and where I preferred my Golf. Apart from that, when I'm properly on it on a flowing B road flying up and down the gears, heel and toeing, getting the back end out, the Clio just trounces the Golf for enjoyment. I still find it class how you can get a car for such reasonable money and it can be so enjoyable.
Thankfully I'm only 5' 7" I think so the seat height is less of an issue for me, I have taken the spacers out under the bases to lose probably another 12mmThat's one of the things that appeals to me, being able to enjoy a car on track without worrying about it costing me a fortune.
I completely agree with you - you cannot get a good feel of a car in just 15 minutes. Which is why I have not discounted it, as I believe the scores of people who love their 182s outweighs my "meh" response to the test drive.
On a different note... how easy is it to sort out the driving position? Can it only be done by putting buckets in (and is that easy?).
Also, I found the pedal setup quite uncomfortable, do other people share this too?
I may well take you up on that offer. Not far from me and just near santa pod which is a frequent destination of mine.My 182 will be coming out the garage after this isolation malarky, so if you find yourself in the Rushden / Northants area, I'll take you out.
Is that easy to do?Thankfully I'm only 5' 7" I think so the seat height is less of an issue for me, I have taken the spacers out under the bases to lose probably another 12mm
How does it compare to the mk7 ST? As that's my current car that I'm getting rid of next month.This thread has made me want another one. Now.
Of all my cars I got rid of the 172 Cup is the one I'd buy back tomorrow, not the mk7 Fiesta ST, not the mk3 Focus RS, not the 2009 Clio 200, nope.
Genuinely, if my 172 Cup pulled up outside and the owner got out and asked if I wanted to buy it back, I'd blub like a girl.