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V-power 99ron
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The Beast MK4
Alan said:
Im on the sains poverty version.
16v_jon said:
Thats because when you burn hydrocarbons, no matter how much detergent the waste will be..........tada!
The cleaning agent only works on the fuel side of things, and thats the 3" between injector and the back of your valve. So that area is about 1% cleaner than running on normal fuel.....joy.
Anyway, to support efficient combustion you need the correct thickness and density carbon layer over the whole combustion chamber.
Arctic blue 182
Fletch123 said:
Well, I believe it's because it's blended with a load of bioethanol. Great for RON but crap calorific value!
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Panthro said:
Well I'm afraid you are wrong. V-Power is a totally different blend. And ALL the Shell UK retail sites had V-Power ready for the national launch.
Dave (chemical engineer, Stanlow Refinery)
Volvo S60 T5
taste's the same to me.
gona try 25 quids worth of 102ron stuff soon, see if its as good as people say.
gona try 25 quids worth of 102ron stuff soon, see if its as good as people say.
My 2 cents:
Filled up with V-power Friday night. Drove 460 miles to Cornwall and back over the weekend. Can't say I noticed a difference, although it was dilluted by some BP Ultimate for the last 150 miles or so. The trip did make my exhaust start blowing though, so it must be storming stuff!! :clown:
Filled up with V-power Friday night. Drove 460 miles to Cornwall and back over the weekend. Can't say I noticed a difference, although it was dilluted by some BP Ultimate for the last 150 miles or so. The trip did make my exhaust start blowing though, so it must be storming stuff!! :clown:
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Quite a few new Petrol's to choose from:
SHELL V-POWER - 99 RON
BP ULTIMATE 102 - 102 RON (around £2.40 per litre)
BP ULTIMATE UNLEADED - 97 RON
ESSO ENERGY SUPREME - 97 RON
TESCO 99 - 99 RON
TEXACO HIGH OCTANE - 97 RON
TOTAL EXCELLIUM - 97 RON
Info from EVO Oct edition.
They tested BP ULTIMATE on RR after remap and the BHP went up a staggering 48.
The car was PORSCHE GT3 Started at 381.9 BHP on BP 97 then 406.9 BHP with BP 102 and then 430 BHP with BP 102 with the remap.
Some good power increases there then.
SHELL V-POWER - 99 RON
BP ULTIMATE 102 - 102 RON (around £2.40 per litre)
BP ULTIMATE UNLEADED - 97 RON
ESSO ENERGY SUPREME - 97 RON
TESCO 99 - 99 RON
TEXACO HIGH OCTANE - 97 RON
TOTAL EXCELLIUM - 97 RON
Info from EVO Oct edition.
They tested BP ULTIMATE on RR after remap and the BHP went up a staggering 48.
The car was PORSCHE GT3 Started at 381.9 BHP on BP 97 then 406.9 BHP with BP 102 and then 430 BHP with BP 102 with the remap.
Some good power increases there then.
182
BenR said:
NA, surely the Porsche 996 GT3 is turbocharged?
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It states that WRC Technologies have run the tests, nothing to do with EVO.
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BenR said:
I stand corrected.
Optimax, V-Power is 5p a litre more than normal Shell or Sainsburys 97 Ron where I live. So £2.50 extra a week or £125 extra a year.
I would rather run Sainsbuys 97 Ron like I do TBH and use a cleaner like Forte every 6k which costs less than a tenner a year. My car was remapped on Sainsburys SUL and it will keep it unless I am no where near and need to fill up with other SUL. I do feel a difference (for the worse) when putting 95 Ron in....
IIRC tests showed that BP Ultimate gave a higher Torque increase than BHP where as Optimax was higher in BHP but less in Torque.
I would rather run Sainsbuys 97 Ron like I do TBH and use a cleaner like Forte every 6k which costs less than a tenner a year. My car was remapped on Sainsburys SUL and it will keep it unless I am no where near and need to fill up with other SUL. I do feel a difference (for the worse) when putting 95 Ron in....
IIRC tests showed that BP Ultimate gave a higher Torque increase than BHP where as Optimax was higher in BHP but less in Torque.
FN2 Type R +MK6 Golf
BenR said:
dont be so narrow minded ben,this was an indpendant test.
They started off with the quoted 381bhp then used the 102 ron at £2.42 a litre and got 400 and then using the fuel and re-mapping the car for this fuel only thet ended up with the final result.
Dont forget you can make 60bhp just by taking the cats of an xj220 jag.
ian
The higher the octain the more carbon bonds therefore the more energy the petrol has cos breaking a carbon bond releases more energy than breaking a hydrogen bond therefore if the petrol has more octanes (more carbon bonds) in the chain it will have more power in its hips init
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16v_jon said:
If only it were that simple. It isn't. For instance normal hexane and isohexane have the same molecular weight and same number of carbon bonds, but normal hexane has crap RON and isohexane has great RON. But when burned they both give out a very similar amount of energy per kg. Generally more branched hydrocarbons have better RON than straight-chain hydrocarbons but there are LOTS of other variables.
Dave
Arctic blue 182
BenR said:
Yes, for my sins I do!
The reference scale for RON and MON is still based on heptane and iso-octane but it's been extrapolated past 100 since many blending components have a higher RON than iso-octane. And yes, the bench engine test for RON and MON is still the same as it was decades ago. You're right that the RON test (and these days MON as well) is done at a far lower engine speed than modern cars rev to, but it's still a useful indicator of real world performance. But there is much more to it than RON.
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Panthro said:Must have been lied to then
What department are you in?
PM'd
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BenR said:
LOL, lay OFF the drugs man! Actually my clio 182 isn't the only one in the refinery car park. Bet we all run them on V-Power though :rasp:
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