V6 Owners:Want to reach 300bhp??

[Ryan.James]

Hey people, i was just wondering if any of you V6 owners out there had reached 300bhp. If so, what mods have you gone for to reach this and where did you go to get them from? Im fairly new to the renault scene and cant seem to find many bits for the V6........Thanks in advance

 

[Ali]

About 10k

Motec, Cams, manifolds...Not worth it tbh!

Don't bother, buy a nice backbox, remap and IK...Total price under a grand.

 

[Mike_182]

What he said. No hope TBH!

Gutted that there's another Vee in Warwickshire though!!!

 

[Ali]

getting common now. Used to be the only one in Aberdeen "City" now theres about 4! Gutted!!

 

[Ryan.James]

Oh right, are they really that bad for tuning!? I was expecting them to be fairly tunable..

 

[Mike_182]

Nope. They get fragile because of the massive amounts of heat in it's cubbyhole with the exhaust next to it.

 

[Ali]

Very untunable! That said, Mike's had a good deal of sucess with his Supercharger/T/C car. Also spent a fair wedge tho!

 

[Mike_182]

Yep, but didn't he cut holes in just about every panel rear of the B pillar to lose the heat?

 

[Ali]

I beleive so...I think that was the limitations to the Supercharger, hence going Turbo?!

 

[Mike_182]

I think either way just generates a massive amount of heat - only half of the heat issue is down to the method of getting the air in there, the rest of it is down to the amount of power you produce. I.E. the more power you want, the more fuel you burn, and the more heat is generated from it.

 

[Ryan.James]

Thanks for the replies guys

 

[Ali]

Ryan, fire onto www.v6clio.net for more info on the vee...get some pics up on here tho!

Welcome to Vee ownership - i'm sure you'll enjoy it.

 

[scott1205]

did fred not do a ITB kit for the vee. unsure on the power it made tho

 

[caister]

Don't think its finished yet. Its still on his drive sat on axle stands!

 

[Mike_182]

When I spoke to him yesterday he did mention it not having moved for a long, long time!

 

[172Ben]

http://www.yozzasport.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=Clio_V6_230_255_throttle_body_conversion

 

[scott1205]

it doesnt realy say much about it

have they had a working kit on a v6 or not

 

[Bazzon]

I think Fred was mainly waiting on a few parts to finish his, but guessing with him starting up his buissness its taken the backseat again.

 

[ddouble]

have a read of this:

http://www.cliov6rally.co.uk/technical/morepower.html


very wise words from a man with lots of experience.

 

[Ali]

the vee isn't going to be the fastest car in the world...Imo. It's more about looks than performance. it's hardly slow. under 6seconds and capable of high 8's at the ring is nothing to be sniffed at.

 

[Dash]

300 bhp can be done, but take it to a real garage like SG Motorsport who knows the v6 very well.

Looks as if it Fred's will work just fine.

Quite a few more in the Special Project Cars section on v6clio.net

 

[franx]

^^ that one on bodies wih a carbon cover ?

 

[Jonny1*2]

Yep, but didn't he cut holes in just about every panel rear of the B pillar to lose the heat?

do the vents cool sufficiently?? Remove the undertray? heatwrap the back box?

 

[Ali]

do the vents cool sufficiently?? Remove the undertray? heatwrap the back box?

Can't remove the undertray! It's undrivable!

 

[Jonny1*2]

really :S that does kind of limit things a little. typical renault design flaws

 

[Ali]

really :S that does kind of limit things a little. typical renault design flaws

Yeh the air buffets around the engine bay and the car moves around ALOT! Not really a flaw tho...

 

[Jonny1*2]

so there is no where for it to escape as such?

 

[Fred@BTM]

in through the side vents, out through the rear lower grille

 

[drhowser]

About 10k

Motec, Cams, manifolds...Not worth it tbh!

Don't bother, buy a nice backbox, remap and IK...Total price under a grand.

closer to 20k i believe!!

 

[Fred@BTM]

motec is way way way expensive and not needed

my V6 will have cost about £7Kish when done (if ever )

 

[drhowser]

are you charging yourself labour on that fred

 

[Fred@BTM]

that includes £2.5K's worth of labour/fabrication that wasn't done by me, and the worlds most expensive airbox

 

[Ali]

closer to 20k i believe!!

ermmm...Shouldn't be that much really...

Either way it's not worth it.

 

[drhowser]

ermmm...Shouldn't be that much really...

Either way it's not worth it.

definately not worth it, but that is pretty much what scott's bill came to!

 

[kevin.s]

motec is way way way expensive and not needed

my V6 will have cost about £7Kish when done (if ever )

take it its still not done yet then mate.

 

[Oldskoolbaby]

I'm currently fiddling with mine but i'll only be hitting 300bhp with the help of nitrous. Im fitting a Trophy inlet manifold, fully bespoke decated manifolds, one off active exhaust system, after market managment to operte the pair of throttle bodies and better suited cams if I get a long list of over mods completed over the winter. Im hoping for around 270-280bhp. The later maybe being very optomistic. Anywhere over 300 bhp and the box starts to complain anyway.

As a side project, me and a friend are trying to mate a Civic Type R gearbox to an early v6 to sort this little issue out. If succesful, it will be a cheap and easy way to get hold of a much better box complete with various LSD options aswell as easy to find uprated clutches. Will also take shed loads more torque and bhp reliably.

 

[c7borg]

Nope. They get fragile because of the massive amounts of heat in it's cubbyhole with the exhaust next to it.

It's always mystified me how they get air flow in such a tight space without going all out trophy!

 

[Oldskoolbaby]

To be fair, the heat in the engine bay doesn't make the engine weeker in anyway. The rad for instance is situated at the front of the car and the collector pipe and silencer is behind the rear subframe and out of the engine bay so the engine has no excuse for running hot. When going anywhere over 40mph or so there is ample ammounts of air movement under the covers to keep a stock or tuned N/A engine comfortably in there. If the engine bay temp gets too high the side pod fans should kick on anyway.

 

[c7borg]

Ahh, interesting as it seems a bit of an air pocket, but then again that doesn't really differ from many of the front wheel drive engine bays

 

[Oldskoolbaby]

Ahh, interesting as it seems a bit of an air pocket, but then again that doesn't really differ from many of the front wheel drive engine bays

Exactly. Im not saying its very cool in there but it certainly shouldnt cause any issues as its hardly an air cooled engine.