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Valver vs Williams engine >>>



  Mk1 Clio 1.8 16v


Forgive me if this is one of those topics that comes up at least once a month by an annoying new person ;) but im new here...anyways

My question is, is it worth replacing a valver engine with a williams lump as a base to start tuning? They both use the same block and being as though the williams is only 13brake more than 16V standard would it make sense to just have my 16v bored out and then to have the longer con-rods fitted to get the same stroke as the Williams? (beleive it can be bored to 2.1 if needed without making the cylinder liners too thin?)

Cheers in advance ppl;)
 


getting it bored is costly and not effective...



get a megane 2ltr bottom end and use a 1.8 16v head on it... as i did.

willy engine is fasr superior... torque galore and you can power out of corners alot easier.. the difference is massive,, a worthwhile mod.
 
  Clio 190bhp Hybrid


Its not all about bhp which is a peak power figure, its about the amount of torque that moves you. 2.0 will always be more and easier to drive becuase it kicks in lower down rev range.

When I bought my valver over 4 years ago I thought that the only difference is 13bhp and several insurance groups.

With a BMC CDA, Magnex inc Decat, BB Chip and Supersprint Manifold it will be pushing approx 150bhp or more (last RR was 148 without manifold). So I may be in the range of a Williams bhp wise but doubt I will be close in torque. If was to race one still think the Williams would have teh edge due to power coming in lower down rev range. I would have to be at approx 4k and above whilst they will get same from approx 2k. So easier to drive a Williams.

Most get Williams engines fitted as straight swap. Due to low number of Williams the engine goes for a premium. It is cheaper to get hold of a Megane 2.0 coupe engine and just use the bottom end matched to your Valver engine, but only cheaper if you were going to be stripping down new engine anyway before fitting. If you wanted to just swap straight over, Williams engine is cheapest of you find the odd one on here or ebay that can go from as low as 350 quid up to anything close to 800.

If you are doing either, you would be best to strip new engine as all the expensive jobs like cambelt, water pump, clutch etc which are a bugger to get to can be done with engine out. So depending on mentality you either just do a straight swap and hope or you take apart new engine and check all bits and repalce where necessary, then you should have peace of mind and many miles of trouble free motoring.
 
  Mk1 Clio 1.8 16v


Cheers guys, mines running 149.7bhp @ 164Nm of torque as it is with a hillpower chip, full BBtuning stainless and green cotton element so im pretty much at standard williams power now, just wanna take the next step
 


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