Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Carbon runners?!
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Christopher
ClioSport Club Member
Z4M
Nice!
172 5HED
Aya streamline all carbon, and I mean ALL carbon, even the runners, bucket seats!
Kev is basically me, but more attractive and more money to burn
PMSL!!!
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
What I've removed from my non-aircon 172 Cup weighed in at a total of 117kgs putting me at 904kgs from the 1,021 starting point.
You must have so much more to come...everything you take out should be bigger and heavier on yours for a start
As to 172bhp/ton...keep up!
You must have so much more to come...everything you take out should be bigger and heavier on yours for a start
As to 172bhp/ton...keep up!
Titanium 182
Petrol is 6lbs per gallon, so at a quarter of a tank (they're 50litre tanks, right?) it would weigh an extra 9/10kg. Meaning the unladen weight of your car is 1152kg's then.
If you wanted to get really anal you could take into account the weight of the coolant too lol!
RS RIP
Fred, you're wrong here. Mine has lost back seats, lost the fronts also to be replaced by 6,5kg Sparco's , aftermarket (K-tec) exhaust , steeringwheel aftermarket also.
So still a LOT of stripping left (like panels, carpet, dash etc. ) and my Cup weighs 960 kg's
172 5HED
PMSL, Hi Naith!!
Can do mate but will have to be later on as Im off to streamline carbon for some fitting!!
Thanks for the good comments guys and the help with my sums, as said above, alot more to go!!!!
172 5HED
172 5HED
Italian 3.2 V6
Dont forget light weight wheels!
for example..
standard 172 wheels weigh ~17kg (each, with tyre)
5x17=85
lightweight 15" ultraleggeras ~9kg (each, with tyre)
4x9=36
36kg -85kg =49kg
total loss of 49kg jus from changing wheels! now im not saying change to 15" ultras but it just shows if you do your research you can save shed loads of weight from easy yet effective changes, this is also rotational weight which is more effective (i.e getting power down from engine, less bhp loss)
plus smaller wheels = more agile precise handling!
good luck!
for example..
standard 172 wheels weigh ~17kg (each, with tyre)
5x17=85
lightweight 15" ultraleggeras ~9kg (each, with tyre)
4x9=36
36kg -85kg =49kg
total loss of 49kg jus from changing wheels! now im not saying change to 15" ultras but it just shows if you do your research you can save shed loads of weight from easy yet effective changes, this is also rotational weight which is more effective (i.e getting power down from engine, less bhp loss)
plus smaller wheels = more agile precise handling!
good luck!
172 5HED
Dont forget light weight wheels!
for example..
standard 172 wheels weigh ~17kg (each, with tyre)
5x17=85
lightweight 15" ultraleggeras ~9kg (each, with tyre)
4x9=36
36kg -85kg =49kg
total loss of 49kg jus from changing wheels! now im not saying change to 15" ultras but it just shows if you do your research you can save shed loads of weight from easy yet effective changes, this is also rotational weight which is more effective (i.e getting power down from engine, less bhp loss)
plus smaller wheels = more agile precise handling!
Aye mate chers for that!! One prob with smaller is my big old brembo 4pots!! But I could look at lighter!!
Italian 3.2 V6
these will be the lightest wheels you will find in the world! weighing in at 17" = 6.25kg!!! these are what you want if anything. even the 18" weight something silly like 6.75kg so for the size you shoudl save more then 50kg, assuming the standard cup wheels will weigh simuler to the 1*2 wheels...
http://www.oz-racing.de/at-team/index.alk
http://www.oz-racing.de/at-team/index.alk
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Italian 3.2 V6
potn.com/uk were selling them the other week for between 1200 (17") - 1500 (18") but they seem not to be there anymore :S you will find them somewere! will be well worth the purchase. well priced also considernig they are as ligh as they are, other light weight wheels brands like enkie n bbs are f**k loads to buy and offen wouldnt fit, O.Z wheels are the way forward for lightness, non of these speedlines or pro1.2s etc etc ppffftt! lol
glad to help mate!
glad to help mate!
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Clio 197 08
LOL,
http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=406422&highlight=carbon+seats
Sorting out the details with Bic on sat
EDIT, toony, that was bad man!!
Lol, bet the mrs's will love you for getting this Kevo!!
Italian 3.2 V6
182 Cup
From the Dymag website:
Carbon Magnesium Car Wheel - Summary
Carbon Magnesium Car Wheel - Summary
The performance gain achieved by reducing the wheel mass (Un-sprung Mass) can be quantified using a factor of six. This means that to achieve the same performance gain by reducing the body mass, it is necessary to remove six times the wheel weight saving.
Example A saving of 2Kg Per Wheel x 4 Wheels = Removing 48 Kg from the Bodywork.
In some instances, Dymag’s Carbon Mag wheels have reduced the wheel weight by up to 5Kg / Wheel, which equates to saving 120Kg from the bodywork to get the same performance advantage.
Example A saving of 2Kg Per Wheel x 4 Wheels = Removing 48 Kg from the Bodywork.
In some instances, Dymag’s Carbon Mag wheels have reduced the wheel weight by up to 5Kg / Wheel, which equates to saving 120Kg from the bodywork to get the same performance advantage.
Italian 3.2 V6
so from the example above i gave (172alloys v O.Z Ultras) means i would be loosing 192kg of body weight.... that cant be right can it!?
17 - 9 = 8 (total saving from each wheel)
8 x 4 = 32 (all togetha saving from all four wheels)
32 x 6 = 192 (total x "un-sprung mass")
that must be wrong!? my car would be rapid!!! lol hahaha, that would mean my car would produce 195.91bhp/ton!!! from just fitting these wheels!
17 - 9 = 8 (total saving from each wheel)
8 x 4 = 32 (all togetha saving from all four wheels)
32 x 6 = 192 (total x "un-sprung mass")
that must be wrong!? my car would be rapid!!! lol hahaha, that would mean my car would produce 195.91bhp/ton!!! from just fitting these wheels!
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182 Cup
I've got no idea about rotational mass and the equvilant weight losses. All I do know is that rotational mass is a good place to lose some weight. Dymag are not amateurs though.
Doesn't quite work like that. lol
Italian 3.2 V6
lol ok but yes that would be correct IF the wheels were made from Carbon Magnesium. which there not so ultras wouldnt do that ultras are made from aluminium and magnesium so tis a little different im gona guess the "un-sprung weight" factor would be x3 or x4 instead of x6 ... i dont know :S
ultras are made from aluminium and magnesium so tis a little different im gona guess the "un-sprung weight" factor would be x3 or x4 instead of x6 ... i dont know :Skev weight off your wheels will massively help, oe 7.5x17 is about 11kgs with tyre.
turini in 8x17 is only about 8.3 kg + tyre
also, 2 piece discs would be lighter, as would coilovers like the ast ones if you want to go crazy.
I have been looking for some light weight wheels, but want 8x17 and the right pcd/offset and its proving difficult. i want pro race 1.4g's but they only do them in lotus fitment
turini in 8x17 is only about 8.3 kg + tyre
also, 2 piece discs would be lighter, as would coilovers like the ast ones if you want to go crazy.
I have been looking for some light weight wheels, but want 8x17 and the right pcd/offset and its proving difficult. i want pro race 1.4g's but they only do them in lotus fitment
Italian 3.2 V6
kev weight off your wheels will massively help, oe 7.5x17 is about 11kgs with tyre.
turini in 8x17 is only about 8.3 kg + tyre
also, 2 piece discs would be lighter, as would coilovers like the ast ones if you want to go crazy.
I have been looking for some light weight wheels, but want 8x17 and the right pcd/offset and its proving difficult. i want pro race 1.4g's but they only do them in lotus fitment
have u checked these out?
http://www.oz-racing.de/at-team/index.alk
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