What car after the Cup

[talizman]

Since Im not having much luck selling the Impreza, Im considering changing the Cup.

Since the wife is the main driver, Im letting her choose what to chop it in for and she has a short list of 3.................

1) Focus RS - 2.0L 212bhp FWD Turbo

2) Golf R32 - 3.2L 240bhp 4WD V6

3) Mini Cooper S - 1.6L 160bhp FWD Supercharged

Your thoughts?

 

[Big Iain]

get a real 172 lol

stay near and its goin dheap!! ish

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[172fastcup]

didnt you read the shortlist Iain, why would she want to get rid of the cup for a slower car



and john, the subaru markets dead at the moment, aint it?? alot of top cars for sale and no serious buyers....

 

[Mondial172]

Cooper-S?????????

Just a normal (not much faster than a Valver) Cooper-S????

 

[talizman]

Why would I want to trade DOWN?

She wants a quicker car, not one thats weighted down with needless "luxuries"!!!!!

 

[172fastcup]

your right john..needless luxuries thats why i bought a cup...the real 172..

 

[Daz.]

Gotta be the Focus aout of those 3, but I wouldnt buy any of em! Not sure what id buy actually...

 

[Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by talizman on 21 June 2004


Why would I want to trade DOWN?

She wants a quicker car, not one thats weighted down with needless "luxuries"!!!!!

Yet all of the above are "weighted down"

Out of that list id go FRS. as its got potential. but if it was my own cash id get a 147gta

 

[Big Iain]

Tom .2 of a sec matters though.

 

[Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by Big Iain on 21 June 2004

Tom .2 of a sec matters though.

I bet. real important.

 

[BossCup]

Also consider an Alfa 147 GTA (apart from the tyre bills...lol) or maybe a Leon Cupra R.

Out of your list though the RS is the only one to consider IMHO.

 

[172mgw]

if it was my money, id get the r32, mainly cos it sounds sweet and will b able to get traction if it snows at any time!! i was gonna say white stuff, but then i realised i was leaving myself open to ridicule by u lot!!

 

[Big Iain]

I would say the r32 too

 

[172fastcup]

Quote: Originally posted by Big Iain on 21 June 2004


Tom .2 of a sec matters though.

its not just the .2 of a sec, its the drivability and the fact you dont get a spongy ride



i drove all 3 cup, 172, 182 on the day i bought my cup...and why do you think i bought it??? cos i was happy with it!!!!!

 

[172fastcup]

JOHN,



go for an AUDI S3 Quattro....you wont be dissappointed!!!

its quick,

its reliable,

its got all those needless luxuries

its got good depreciation value

its just an AUDI what more!!!!



ross

 

[Big Iain]

U bought the cup because the suspension wasnt spongy??

 

[172fastcup]

DRIVABILITY IAIN....



and the fact i dont need all those needless luxuries!!!



and it felt a better car to drive, common knowledge on here mate!!!!

 

[Big Iain]

ok so you drove the 182 with or without suspension pack?

 

[172fastcup]

Quote: Originally posted by 172fastcup on 21 June 2004


and the fact i dont need all those needless luxuries!!!

read the post!!! ^^^^up there^^^^

drove the standard wannabe cup 182

and at the end of the day i made my decision and went for the CUP the real 172....

you sound like a guy who aint happy with is 172??? whats up do you want a 182???

 

[Big Iain]

Ross U are a f**kin wind up mearchant, Im goin oot!!

speak tya later

 

[172fastcup]

C YA BIG MAN!!!!



let johns post continue...sorry john got a bit carried away there with iain..

 

[TheCake]

Focus RS john. You know it makes sense. And its cheaper to insure than a Cup. tehe!

 

[Roamer]

Williams

Now youve tried the cup get the original and still the best - you know it makes sense.

 

[RobFenn]

Focus.

 

[MIKE-CUP]

Id get the Focus out of all those I think. Looks the best and goes very well and should hold its value better than the others.

However, if your spending 20+ grand then you could get a Cooper S Works Pack or some other conversion (BBR 275)

[Edited by MIKE-CUP on 21 June 2004 at 10:38am]

 

[Tom]

Quote: Originally posted by Roamer on 21 June 2004


Williams

Now youve tried the cup get the original and still the best - you know it makes sense.

Cant see it on the list. nice try.

 

[RobFenn]

Yeah, wouldnt want my wife in an old Renault. Would want a good all round package.

-Rob

 

[Pete]

Out of your list a FRS.

 

[cliotuRS]

wish i could afford a GTA

 

[talizman]

Guys and gals,

I appreciate that the 3 cars she likes are not exactly comparable. (ie, turbo, n/a, supercharged, 4WD, FWD etc etc) but they are the 3 cars that she "likes"!

She has no idea of price, so thats why they are in pretty different ball parks.

Tomclio 182,

I appreicate that they are all "weighted down", but my point was that out of the 172s, Id go for the Cup every time.

With these cars, there isnt a "lightweight" version so its not an issue with them.

BossCup,

I agree, the 147GTA and Cupra R are cracking cars but shes having none of it! She hates Alfas, and wont take a 4/5 door, so they are both out Im afraid.

Roamer,

Already done the Williams thing!

I owned Williams 1 number 207 for a few years and it was one of the best cars Ive owned.

Sold it to a guy from Fife who pranged it numerous times, eventually writing it off! Think it has been repaired though........

Basically, the Golf is a non-starter, cos I have no intention of spending 22-23k on a bavarian tank. IMO, they are bland, uninvolving and fail to set my hair on fire.

I think that after a Cup theyd be a bit of a come down in terms of driver involvement/enjoyment.

The Cooper S is a strange choice IMO and she likes its quirky looks.

Ive told her that the Cup has the Coopers scalp in performance terms so I think that is out of the running now.

The Focus, I cannot fault really. For around £18k, examples can be got now.

Some folk are still trying to sell them for £24k which is £4k over list!!!!!

Bottom line, the car must have similar performance to the Cup, and be 3 door, and good looking.

I think the Focus is leading the pack at the moment!

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by 172fastcup on 21 June 2004


didnt you read the shortlist Iain, why would she want to get rid of the cup for a slower car

So why is the Cooper-S on the list?!

 

[Zonda]

The R32 might sound better as far as the engine is concerned, but just the thought of owning a Golf makes me feel ill! YUK YUK YUK! (cant even bare to look at one!) Out of the list, Id get the RS and have a bit of cred.

They go as well as you need, and are easy to play around with Chips and zausts and just look better as well to get a bit more out of it.

 

[172fastcup]

Audi s3???

Honda S2000????

lotus elise???

 

[Rich-D]

The Focus RS would be my choice, then the Golf, woulnt have the mini!

 

[172fastcup]

wouldnt have any of them...and the ford factor hanging over your head nope not for me...worse than renault for quality!!!



well i could be persuaded to buy the mini...then convert it to 200bhp

 

[KDF]

The focus RS is nice, but way overpriced for my liking, and the interior is absoloute cack.

How about an ITR

 

[DK-CTR]

I went CTR to FRS, and havent looked back, wouldnt mind changing my user name though, any ideas how

[Edited by DK-CTR on 21 June 2004 at 11:30am]

 

[Zonda]

You wouldnt get dissed in an RS Focus like you would in a Mini! or a R32! At the end of the day, your not looking for the next 911 Turbo! Its a fast good looking car, and you wont find anything for this price that you cant find things to pick at. If its on your drive, all pollished it will not be embarressing!

I might even let you out of a junction!

 

[talizman]

172fastcup,

Audi S3 - Another "anonymous" car that doesnt really perform as its bhp would suggest. Bland IMHO. No offence to any owners. Less power to weight than the Cup!

Honda S2000 - Not a fan of the looks. Spectacular engine, 2.0L 237bhp, mmmmmmmmm. Expensive still.

Lotus Elise - Not for an every day commuter. Far too track orientated and un-compromising. Far too basic and uncomfortable inside too.

As for Ford build quality being worse than Renaults!...... dont you stretch your imagination too far!

DK-CTR,

If you want to change your name, just re-register with a new name. You have only made 5 posts so its not as if youll lose a high post count.

 

[Rich-D]

Quote: Originally posted by _KDF on 21 June 2004

How about an ITR

For the wife?! A little hardcore really...