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what do we hate on clios?



  PH1 172 Sport
Experience doesn't mean sh!t it's simple physics, you only have so much grip on a fwd car so a big engine is pointless.

If you think your 1*2 is good try a real car with RWD you'll be surprised

Unusable power, under-steer, no grip not as good a RWD. You sir are talking out of your behind.

Yes a 172 may not be as 'balanced' as a RWD car but I certainly don't have any problems with putting power down or understeer. RWD cars are fun but so are properly setup FWD cars.

Maybe drive a decent big engined front wheel drive car first before coming on a Clio forum a slagging most members cars off.
 
  Clio 1.4 RT
Hmmm let me call up all the F1 teams and tell them they need FWD cars as RWD is a waste of time apparently
 
  Evo 6, E92 320d
Hmmm let me call up all the F1 teams and tell them they need FWD cars as RWD is a waste of time apparently

Thats not whats been said at all, it's the fact you seem too think that all fwd cars with larger engines are crap and can't handle.
 
  S4 Avant
Hmmm let me call up all the F1 teams and tell them they need FWD cars as RWD is a waste of time apparently

Let me call up all the hot hatch manufacturers and tell them they need V10s in their cars.

You've never even driven one FFS!
 
  R34 GT-R & 172 Cup
ollyc90 you dont own one, you probably never driven one, the closest you got to one is this site....yet you seem to know how they handle :S
 
  Clio 1.4 RT
The original post asked what we don't like on clios, I gave my opinion, I can't believe you people are trying to tell me what MY opinion is
 
  R34 GT-R & 172 Cup
Read some reviews from people that know what they're talking about

I own one i think i should know how they handle, they dont handle crap. Your just upset cause you cant own one, you want a RWD vehicle get a pedal bike
 
  PH1 172 Sport
Read some reviews from people that know what they're talking about

See this thread for an article from people who know what they are talking about

http://www.germancarzone.com/6-series/62-scans-evo-bmw-m6-vs-renault-clio-trophy.html

Then tell us FWD cars can't handle.

I've also personally driven the New M6, New M3, e46 M3, a F355, a M635csi and a E190 EVO all of which are rear wheel drive. So I think I have a small idea of what I'm talking about. All I can say is RWD is great but so is FWD and IMO there's no reason why a good FWD can't punch well above its own weight.
 
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  Better than yours. C*nt.
FLOL! As much stick as I give Trophys they're not bad handling! The whole RenaultSport range are regarded by the majority of 'the industry' as the benchmark.
 

Jason_E

ClioSport Club Member
  Elise, 530d
Evo Magazine said:
Balance-wise the chassis is on the ever-so-slightly-nervous side of neutral. Its relatively light weight and the Michelin tyres mean this Clio changes direction better than any front-wheel-drive car I've ever driven. It adopts that super-aggressive, tarmac- rally-car, flat-cornering patter - body roll is virtually non-existent.
The brakes have a feel and ability that teaches every other manufacturer, bar Porsche, a lesson in how to stop a car. I had the pads on fire, literally, and yet the brakes refused to fade.
The speed the 182 can carry into a corner is simply phenomenal for a road car, but the ability to drive at this level comes at a price; any driver error now happens at higher velocities than before. It's not that the Clio wants to bite you, it's just that it doesn't suffer fools and you can't feed it mixed messages - once you're committed to a corner, it's best you stay committed.
Despite that slight caveat, Renault has created a driving tool that's everything we all wanted the Peugeot 206 GTI 180 to be. If you're building a hot hatch, this is the new benchmark. Ford and Vauxhall, don't say you haven't been warned! Renault is the new king of asphalt.
In fact, so good is the Clio 182 with the Cup chassis set-up that I feel moved to make a bold statement - I think it's the best hot hatch ever built.
http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evocarreviews/43716/renaultsport_clio.html

Auto Express said:
But it's the tarmac performance that will determine sales success or failure - and the 182 doesn't disappoint. Renaultsport has widened the track and revised the suspension. Seen here is the optional ΂£200 Cup package, which includes specialist tyres, a 3mm drop in ride height, and adds even more rigidity to the springs and dampers. The result is fantastic. Attack a series of bends and the eager nose dives for the apex of every corner, providing massive grip and fantastic feedback.
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/carreviews/firstdrives/44856/renaultsport_clio_182.html#ixzz0V4sy7iO5

Seriously mate, a second on google will have stopped you looking a complete tool.
 
  R34 GT-R & 172 Cup
Compared to what? They handle fantastically compared to a bus. It's all relative

Jesus! whats your problem, iv driven the vxr corsa...terrible if you gun it of the line torque steers like mad, focus st from reviews torque steers like man. Astra VXR you take your hand of the steering wheel you can go left all day long on full power...iv never come across this in my 172 or the 182's i test drove the reviews on the 197/200 show its got brilliant handling during power and corners compared to other small hot hatches.

Yes RWD cars are mint but there a different type of car.
 
  Clio 1.4 RT
Jesus! whats your problem, iv driven the vxr corsa...terrible if you gun it of the line torque steers like mad, focus st from reviews torque steers like man. Astra VXR you take your hand of the steering wheel you can go left all day long on full power...iv never come across this in my 172 or the 182's i test drove the reviews on the 197/200 show its got brilliant handling during power and corners compared to other small hot hatches.

Yes RWD cars are mint but there a different type of car.

You're closer to my point than everyone else, these sort of cars tend to handle badly.
I had no idea the clios were that much better.

However, just cos they are the best FWD cars doesn't mean they are all that amazing
 
  R34 GT-R & 172 Cup
You're closer to my point than everyone else, these sort of cars tend to handle badly.
I had no idea the clios were that much better.

However, just cos they are the best FWD cars doesn't mean they are all that amazing

For a FWD car at prices under 6k second hand and 14k brand new with that much power, fun and comfort i find it hard to beat a clio RS

Give me something thats FWD, handles brilliant and has 170bhp or more for under 6k (not a modded FWD)

il eat my 172
 
Big engines, why have a 2.0 in a hot hatch. 'Look at me in my FWD car, I can't put any power down and I understeer like a b**ch' yeah very good, thanks renault.

Rear engine is good though :p

FLOL. Seriously, are you just trolling or what?
 
  Clio V6
Bet all you FWD owners are gutted at Olly's revelation that your cars are crap. And there was me thinking they were cracking, affordable cars perfect for the open road or track :(
 
  PH1 172 Sport
Bet all you FWD owners are gutted at Olly's revelation that your cars are crap. And there was me thinking they were cracking, affordable cars perfect for the open road or track :(

Totally gutted mate i'm going to have to sell up now...
 
  clio sport rs 200
people that put big exhausts on A 1.2 OR 1.4 and make them loud and put a spark plug in to make them pop pointless
 
  Clio 172 RS2
- Non-stealth exhaust... like a low slung DTM style dual pipe muffler.

- Foiled up dark window tinting.

- A chav going wild on a Clio RS!

@Ollyc90; you can't handle a proper 'Hot Hatch' mate!
 

jenic

ClioSport Club Member
people that put big exhausts on A 1.2 OR 1.4 and make them loud and put a spark plug in to make them pop pointless

What are these spark plugs?

Ive got a mate who owns a 1.2 sxi corsa with a big back box and big wheels (no lowering though so its very 4x4) and he thinks its the best car in the world, i could get him to buy them if they pop lol.

Would make me chuckle everytime i heard it :p

Edit: Oh you mean a plug in the exhaust, how does that work then?
 
  clio sport rs 200
Experience doesn't mean sh!t it's simple physics, you only have so much grip on a fwd car so a big engine is pointless.

If you think your 1*2 is good try a real car with RWD you'll be suprised
rear wheel i have had 1 and can say slide every where when put power down so can spin out in front wheel it doesnt so away you go
 
  clio sport rs 200
What are these spark plugs?

Ive got a mate who owns a 1.2 sxi corsa with a big back box and big wheels (no lowering though so its very 4x4) and he thinks its the best car in the world, i could get him to buy them if they pop lol.

Would make me chuckle everytime i heard it :p

Edit: Oh you mean a plug in the exhaust, how does that work then?
as they rev car adn have a switch inside turn on and makes teh spark plug spark when reving and makes a flame or pop in the exhaust
 


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