What has this person done?

[Kazumz]

Hi,

I am extremely interested to know how this person achieved 60 in such a short space of time. I know it's slight wheel spin but the shifting is amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox-cC7fDslU

Surely that cannot just be the driver?

 

[LiamR172]

By the sounds and looks of it, its still spinning until 70 then gets grip.

 

[George182]

Yeah - looks like a ton of wheel spin!

 

[Kazumz]

Dat gear change thou...

Doesn't sound like hes spinning it much in 2nd? But 3rd? Not sure.

 

[theduck]

That's kevs old car. Cammed, larger cable control throttle body, stripped, was a bit of a monster at the time, though that was 4 years ago

Eta link http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?437987-197-cup-progress-thingy!!

 

[McGherkin]

There's nothing particularly amazing about the gearchanges. However by the looks of things he's moderating the throttle in 1st and 2nd and then was expecting to have enough grip in 3rd to go WOT.

 

[Mr Plums]

My 182 gets to 70 quicker than that so it must be wheel spin.

o]

 

[Kazumz]

My 182 gets to 70 quicker than that so it must be wheel spin.

o]

I don't know who you are being sarcastic to?

 

[Kazumz]

There's nothing particularly amazing about the gearchanges. However by the looks of things he's moderating the throttle in 1st and 2nd and then was expecting to have enough grip in 3rd to go WOT.

I can never shift like that in my car!

 

[AdDaMan]

Are you trolling or what?

The gear changes are normal?!

 

[FLOBALOB]

Was expecting to see something amazing when I watched this video , but its just some bloke going through the gears ( fluently enough but nothing special ). Dont know what the fuss is.

 

[Kazumz]

Are you trolling or what?

The gear changes are normal?!

How? I usually lose about 2k RPM on a shift!

 

[AdDaMan]

How? I usually lose about 2k RPM on a shift!

FLOL! so does every car in the world.....thats the point of gears..

I think your confused about what your trying ti get across.

 

[Tony Hunter]

Just, what!

 

[Kazumz]

FLOL! so does every car in the world.....thats the point of gears..

I think your confused about what your trying ti get across.

No, I usually lose 2k extra RPM on top of the gears during a shift and thats going as fast as possible. I can't get it anywhere near the same speed of that shift.

Can you stop being so rude in your replies?

 

[Mr Plums]

I don't know who you are being sarcastic to?

You, cant you count??

Mine does it in 7.5 seconds seconds ish, it starts at 5 and a half secs, and finishes at 13 secs to get to 70mph.

The one you posted starts at 3 secs and takes until 12 secs to get to 70mph, thats 9 secs, derrrr!

What you are seeing in your post is wheel spin, no sarcasm needed, just video evidence son.

 

[McGherkin]

Kazumz I'm not quite sure what you're on about.

Do you mean that the revs drop 2k below what the next gear's RPM is, and drag it back up with the clutch?

 

[AdDaMan]

Im so confused by your confusion.

 

[Kazumz]

@Kazumz I'm not quite sure what you're on about.

Do you mean that the revs drop 2k below what the next gear's RPM is, and drag it back up with the clutch?

No no, as usual when I change gears it obviously drops revs as I'm doing it and I usually rev match it to the next shift, but that shift above was like lightning compared to my car. But yes what you said is correct but I just rev match it instead rather than jolt the car with the clutch.

 

[McGherkin]

:S Even my 1.2 can shift that quickly, if not quicker. Video to explain?

 

[AdDaMan]

I think you must just have very slow hand/eye/foot co-ordination or something. Every car ive ever owned can be shifted that quickly or quicker..

 

[Kazumz]

I think you must just have very slow hand/eye/foot co-ordination or something. Every car ive ever owned can be shifted that quickly or quicker..

Might just be that, sometimes I mess up going from 1st to 2nd and I get a jolt, other times its like butter. I suppose its down to inexperience to be honest.

 

[AdDaMan]

Yeah more than likely.

 

[Martin_172]

did you say you rev match on the way up the box?

there is a massive difference in the speed you can shift in a 197/200 gearbox compaired to the gearbox on a 1.2 tce that's why!

 

[Inequality Street]

No no, as usual when I change gears it obviously drops revs as I'm doing it and I usually rev match it to the next shift, but that shift above was like lightning compared to my car. But yes what you said is correct but I just rev match it instead rather than jolt the car with the clutch.

I get what you mean, I think.

2000RPM Idle
rev to 7100RPM
Shift
2nd gear starts at 5100RPM-ish, revs to 7100RPM
Shift
3rd gear so on and so on.

The video shows the MPH needle going up with almost no hesitation. However, if you look at the RPM needle, it does go down 2000RPM or similar.

I think if you really went for it, you would be able to replicate that with ease if I'm honest.

 

[McGherkin]

Might just be that, sometimes I mess up going from 1st to 2nd and I get a jolt, other times its like butter. I suppose its down to inexperience to be honest.

If you're really quick shifting, you get a jolt as the RPM of the engine is still above the RPM of the next gear, so you actually jump forward.

Powershifting (keeping the throttle down and just pushing the clutch) is even 'quicker' as you essentially build up momentum in the flywheel when you push the clutch in, and then dump it back into the wheels when you let it out after changing gear. However it is REALLY bad for your box. And your drivetrain. And your wallet. But that's how gearchanges are done when drag racing.

 

[AdDaMan]

'Granny shifting and not double clutching like you should'

 

[Tony Hunter]

Enough if this dribble, please.

 

[KillaZ]

'Granny shifting and not double clutching like you should'

But doublw clutching is only usefull when you have 47 gears like they do in the movies....right? ;-)

 

[l33th3tr33]

But doublw clutching is only usefull when you have 47 gears like they do in the movies....right? ;-)

Or vehicles that actually need double clutching.

My head hurts reading this thread, I think OP is just a bit 'dim' to be polite.

 

[Tim.]

When I change gears it obviously drops revs as I'm doing it and I usually rev match it to the next shift.

Kazumz, can you confirm what you mean? I'm guessing you do this:

You're in 1st and accelerate up to 6,500rpm
You engage the clutch and shift to 2nd
Using the accelerator you maintain 6,500rpm
You release the clutch

At this point do you let the revs drop to around 3,500 rpm, or do you use the clutch to maintain 6,500rpm until you shift to 3rd etc?

 

[Kazumz]

@Kazumz , can you confirm what you mean? I'm guessing you do this:

You're in 1st and accelerate up to 6,500rpm
You engage the clutch and shift to 2nd
Using the accelerator you maintain 6,500rpm
You release the clutch

At this point do you let the revs drop to around 3,500 rpm, or do you use the clutch to maintain 6,500rpm until you shift to 3rd etc?

No, I don't maintain 6,500 going in to the next gear as that's my limiter! I use the accelerator to "guess" where the revs are if the clutch was engaged going in to the next gear. Sometimes its lovely and smooth sometimes it's not, down to experience really isn't it?

 

[Kazumz]

Or vehicles that actually need double clutching.

My head hurts reading this thread, I think OP is just a bit 'dim' to be polite.

Ah your another one of those 'Rude f***s' that this forum has. No, it's just gone off topic. It has already been answered on the first page and you had no reason to reply.

 

[Budgie]

Absolutely no need to match anything going up.

Going down is where it's valuable.

 

[l33th3tr33]

Ah your another one of those 'Rude f**ks' that this forum has. No, it's just gone off topic. It has already been answered on the first page and you had no reason to reply.

No, not really, I'm very tame compared to some. It's just completely useless trying to rev match when upshifting, and I'm guessing on the road too, which in turn one would assume you drive like a tool. As Budgie said, it's downshifting where it counts.

Oh, and it's You're, not your.

 

[Kazumz]

No, not really, I'm very tame compared to some. It's just completely useless trying to rev match when upshifting, and I'm guessing on the road too, which in turn one would assume you drive like a tool. As Budgie said, it's downshifting where it counts.

Oh, and it's You're, not your.

I'm sorry. I'm not writing a dissertation each time I post. Extremely childish.

 

[l33th3tr33]

Extremely.