Wheel bolts

[matty a]

Hi I am thinking of running 16mm spacers with my 172 wheels and was just wondering what length wheel bolts I would need I was thinking 35mm any help thanks.

 

[not normal dan]

Surely you want to run ones that are 16mm longer?

 

[matty a]

Thanks I thought that but I wasn't sure .

 

[Chip-mk1]

My normal advise would be: get hubcentric adaptors that bolt on, if you expose an additional 16mm of thread then the amount of stretch will increase massively and you will risk them working undone, especially if they get them hot breaking hard and then corner hard.

I guess if its a 1.2 for pottering to the shops and back though you will probably not have a problem, but its still nasty IMHO to do it that way.

 

[not normal dan]

My normal advise would be: get hubcentric adaptors that bolt on, if you expose an additional 16mm of thread then the amount of stretch will increase massively and you will risk them working undone, especially if they get them hot breaking hard and then corner hard.

I guess if its a 1.2 for pottering to the shops and back though you will probably not have a problem, but its still nasty IMHO to do it that way.

I agree with chip there, that's spacer is rather large an I would certainly consider a hubcentric even though they are more expensive you can put a price on safety.

What sort of extra strain/load will these put on the hub/wheel bearing? That's one thing that had always put me off spacers.

 

[Austin-182]

What size are the standard bolts on 182's, anyone know?

 

[Chip-mk1]

I agree with chip there, that's spacer is rather large an I would certainly consider a hubcentric even though they are more expensive you can put a price on safety.

What sort of extra strain/load will these put on the hub/wheel bearing? That's one thing that had always put me off spacers.

The extra load is no different to the wheel bearing to if you run the wrong offset wheel, yes the loads are increased, but its not exponentially so or anything like that, nothing really to worry about despite lots of advice to the contrary on various forums etc.

 

[not normal dan]

What about handling? Would running a larger spacer especially up front effect the handling?

 

[Chip-mk1]

What about handling? Would running a larger spacer especially up front effect the handling?

What it will normally do is improve stability when cornering hard on a fixed radius, but also introduce additional bump steer, it will also alter the ackerman characteristics slightly.

So basically what you get generally is, more grip (and hence higher ultimate corner speed) but worse handling (caused by bump steer and tramlining)

Different cars do react differently though, so in some cases its worth the trade off and in others it isnt.

 

[not normal dan]

What it will normally do is improve stability when cornering hard on a fixed radius, but also introduce additional bump steer, it will also alter the ackerman characteristics slightly.

So basically what you get generally is, more grip (and hence higher ultimate corner speed) but worse handling (caused by bump steer and tramlining)

Different cars do react differently though, so in some cases its worth the trade off and in others it isnt.

Similar to the effect of running wider bars on me mtb, wider bars give greater stability downhill an speed especially but your more effected by the ruff stuff.

But narrower bars are better for the twisty and tight slower sections.

 

[Paul172sport]

what size bolts do 172s run, are all Renault ones the same length?

if I wanted to run 5mm spacers on the rear are there any slightly longer I could from a scrappy or raid my mates garage?