Which is heavier - Valver or 1.6 16v

[_Tom]

Out of these two which is heavier?

Mk1 Clio 1.8 16v or Mk 2 1.6 16v?

or just post the weight if you know it for either!

 

[R3OBC]

hmmm id prob say the 1.6...........but thats an educated guess

 

[Mark]

1.6 16v

Kerb Weight (Excluding Driver) (kg)

1000


n valver is 980 think

 

[Rich_16v]

Yep valver is 980kg

 

[Mark]

so the answer to your question is the valver is lighter by 20kg

^^^^ those figures where from http://www.renault.co.ukwww.renault.co.uk

 

[_Tom]

Cheers Guys

Makes and interesting read! Its just every 1.6 16v ive come across ive left for dead (Sorry 1.6 boys no offence meant!) but they all seem to argue they can keep with valvers.

But that works out that a valver has about 30bhp per tonne more which is alot i think well all agree!

 

[cat171]

i read that the 1.8 16v is 1018kg.

and i know your not asking, but a williams is less.

 

[_Tom]

Nope i just checked. If you go to the CS homepage and check car specs a valver is 980kg and a williams is 990kg.

 

[Mark]

lemme find my handbook

 

[Mark]

Kerb vehicle weight
980 kgs

 

[David]

i would never say a 1.6 can keep up with a valver!!! ur like 130bhp! and were 110 not to mention weight difference...dont know any 1.6ers who have said this either...

 

[Mark]

Quote: Originally posted by 1.8_16v_Clio on 26 May 2004


Cheers Guys

Makes and interesting read! Its just every 1.6 16v ive come across ive left for dead (Sorry 1.6 boys no offence meant!) but they all seem to argue they can keep with valvers.

But that works out that a valver has about 30bhp per tonne more which is alot i think well all agree!

valver has dohc i dont think the 1.6 has think that would make a difference

 

[Matt16v]

I think all 16v engines are DOHC?

 

[Mark]

that might b a good statement lol

 

[_Tom]

i would never say a 1.6 can keep up with a valver!!! ur like 130bhp! and were 110 not to mention weight difference...dont know any 1.6ers who have said this either...



Hmm some of your 1.6 companions think they can.Theyve posted it in here too at the start and the end of the thread:-

http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=12&TopicID=87288&PagePosition=1http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=12&TopicID=87288&PagePosition=1

http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=12&TopicID=87288&PagePosition=1 color=#800080 U/U

 

[S15VE_M]

i tryed but failed lol but it was only to see the difference (was a bit may i add)

 

[_Tom]

Oh theres nothing wrong with tryin!

Its all only a laugh!

Bit like when i had a pop at a V6 off some lights!

 

[matlow]

i think the fastest thing on the road is a lollipop lady. they get about in traffic like no ones business

 

[Clart]

Ive got both, the 1.6 is pretty nippy, quicker than i expected, but its not in the same league as the valver by any means.

 

[cliosportcraig]

Quote: Originally posted by Matt16v on 26 May 2004

I think all 16v engines are DOHC?

I assumed this before but was proven wrong by someone on this forum, there are a few SOHC 16v engines but they are nowhere near as common as DOHC 16v engines, but yes the 1.6 16v is DOHC and 110 BHP as standard whereas the valver is 137 BHP as standard and 20 kg lighter which is nothing when you think that the driver could be 20kg heavier or could have 20kg more ICE, the weight is negligable the BHP isnt

 

[Chris1.4RT]

Renault could have and should have gotten more power out of the 1.6, I get 130horses from my standard VTS (rare 130 model unlike the usual 120). If they had of, thered probably be less VTRs on the road as more people would have gone for the Clio. At the peak of the Saxos popularity there was only really the Clio 1.6 RSi out (roughly equivalent to the VTR performance wise) coupled with the Saxos free insurance meant more young uns went for the tin can.

 

[Ben H]

The Valver will have a host of differences to do with gearing, torque spread and engine management that help make it different to drive. Remember that the 16V was, from 1991-93, Renaults homologation car for its flagship Group A rally exploits, using the 1764cc lump and most of the 16Vs bits. Today, the 1.6 16v Clio is used as the Super 1600 homologation car, but you have to admit theres a world of difference between the Super 1600 car and the 1990s Group A Clio (and Maxi version).

 

[skiddusmarkus]

Quote: Originally posted by cliosportcraig on 26 May 2004

Quote: Originally posted by Matt16v on 26 May 2004

I think all 16v engines are DOHC?

I assumed this before but was proven wrong by someone on this forum, there are a few SOHC 16v engines but they are nowhere near as common as DOHC 16v engines, but yes the 1.6 16v is DOHC and 110 BHP as standard whereas the valver is 137 BHP as standard and 20 kg lighter which is nothing when you think that the driver could be 20kg heavier or could have 20kg more ICE, the weight is negligable the BHP isnt

What are they then(genuinely interested)?Ive never heard of one cam operating 16valves before-unless it was on a straight 8

 

[Mark]

dont forget also renault want u 2 by there top of the range sports cars 172 172 cup 182 megane 225. so there only gonna give a little bit with the 1.6 they dont want that 1.6 catching there halmark.

unlike like citreon that dont really have a performance minded car ok the VTR/VTS but thats not really in the same field