Wiring new cigarette lighter?

[sprentice]

so I've bought a new (universal) 12v socket to fit into my mk2 clio, as mine has broken but I'm having a bit of trouble with the wiring?

The original has 3 wires running to it, (brown, blue and yellow/red)

where as the new one has a red and black cable? The red having a spade connector on?

So my question is how the hell do I wire it haha?!

Any help would be massively appreciated

 

[Knuckles]

@McTwerkin does electrics afaik

 

[Chrisgti6]

Looks to me like the new one has 2 separate circuits. One for power to the unit (for the cigarette lighter/gps/phone charger), and one for lighting the ring around it.

Test the 3 original wires, I'd guess at you having an earth, a live and a feed from the lighting circuit to light it up when the lights are on. If that's the case then you want the switched live and an earth the back of the unit, then the lighting feed and a spur from the earth to the lighting ring.

That's if you're bothered about it lighting up of course, if not then just work out which wires are the main feed and earth and connect them to the back.

 

[sprentice]

Looks to me like the new one has 2 separate circuits. One for power to the unit (for the cigarette lighter/gps/phone charger), and one for lighting the ring around it.

Test the 3 original wires, I'd guess at you having an earth, a live and a feed from the lighting circuit to light it up when the lights are on. If that's the case then you want the switched live and an earth the back of the unit, then the lighting feed and a spur from the earth to the lighting ring.

That's if you're bothered about it lighting up of course, if not then just work out which wires are the main feed and earth and connect them to the back.

i'm guessing the prong in the centre is for main feed and the outer part the earthing point? correct me if im wrong! thanks though!

 

[McGherkin]

Centre is postive, outside surround is earth.

I'm guessing the wires in the connector are positive, illumination positive, and a shared earth for both. The thickness of the yellow wire suggests it's the earth but the colour coding suggests the blue one. Get a multimeter out and test.

 

[sprentice]

Centre is postive, outside surround is earth.

I'm guessing the wires in the connector are positive, illumination positive, and a shared earth for both. The thickness of the yellow wire suggests it's the earth but the colour coding suggests the blue one. Get a multimeter out and test.

yeah seeing mixed things about which is live and which is earth! will do!

 

[sprentice]

Centre is postive, outside surround is earth.

I'm guessing the wires in the connector are positive, illumination positive, and a shared earth for both. The thickness of the yellow wire suggests it's the earth but the colour coding suggests the blue one. Get a multimeter out and test.

Tested it:
Blue - Lighting Positive
Black&Pink - Earth
Yellow&Red - 12V Power

So its all hooked up, but what about the earth from the new unit? can i strip the black wire and just have it run into a empty connector block? thanks mate

 

[McGherkin]

Both earths will go to the black and pink then, on the original lighter they're combined.

 

[sprentice]

Both earths will go to the black and pink then, on the original lighter they're combined.

can i twist the two exposed earth wires together and put them into the same spade connector? sorry im not very electrically minded..

Oh wait, because its a pin thats going to connect to the earth wire, how would i go about getting the other black wire also connected? can i run the black wire into the earth pin on the new lighter, along with the black and pink wire?

 

[Chrisgti6]

can i twist the two exposed wires together and put them into the same spade connector? sorry im not very electrically minded..

Yes, do exactly this. It's what I was just typing! Just loop it over and connect it with the same spade.

 

[sprentice]

Yes, do exactly this. It's what I was just typing! Just loop it over and connect it with the same spade.

wicked, thanks mate!

 

[Chrisgti6]

We Volvo drivers do have our uses occasionally!

 

[sprentice]

We Volvo drivers do have our uses occasionally!

haha thats worked perfect, all working now (you'd think i'd be able to do it without help, as im doing an engineering course haha)

 

[aaronasprey]

Sorry to bring up an old thread, any chance you could upload a picture of your wiring now? I've just got one of these sockets and I'm also confused on how to wire it.

 

[sprentice]

Sorry to bring up an old thread, any chance you could upload a picture of your wiring now? I've just got one of these sockets and I'm also confused on how to wire it.

Sure mate I'll take a picture in a bit!

 

[Ads29]

Blue wire (lighting positive) to red wire

Yellow/Red (12 volt positive) onto centre connector which is held on with what looks like either an 8 or 10 mm nut

Connect the black/pink original wiring and the black wire from new illumination light together and then onto connector on right of new lighter

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[Chris_Beer]

Why not just get another Renault socket lol. I have a decent one here if required