YOUR 197

[K-Tec Racing]

Hi Guys

We are always looking of ways to improve our service and range

we would like to know what you feel YOU would like to improve or change on your 197

* Engine
* Drivability
* Power
* Handling
* Ride
* Styling
* Seating
* Brakes


Would you buy one if there was a different range or particular product available?

let us know




thanks

Andy

 

[fUbAr]

From testing an early 197 round Brands Hatch, my only criticism was the lack of low down grunt... much like the 172/182.
Not sure if a simple remap would cure this? (may already be available, I havent looked)

 

[Gaz_]

Mainly a nice smooth remap. There is a nasty flatspot around 2.5-3k, although i'm sure you are aware of this

 

[Louism]

Ya do what they have done to the new 200 with the low gears/

 

[alanc1000]

its deffo the ongoing mapping probs and low down pull as per above.

 

[Tav]

Maybe offer some of the stuff that was fitted to that 197 from Holland? The chap posted up a link to a good website that had a lot of motorsport parts for the 197 and could be bought in complete kit form, was quite impressive. It's on here somewhere...

Clio 200 double acting dampers and other improved OEM parts?

 

[Mr Burns]

I'd agree about the map, I've had mine live mapped and it's better (not great).

I'd love some more power lower down

 

[Ribena]

I haven't driven a 200 or 1*2 but I have no problems with flat spots or anything, I find my car very smooth! Saying that though, it's always nice to see some engine development...ITB's!

 

[Flying Frog]

will you consider doing mods / remaps for the rs200 soon ?

 

[Mr Burns]

I've driven a 200 round a circuit and it definately feels punchier at lower revs, I'd like to think this could be obtained in my 197 without emptying my wallet!

 

[K-Tec Racing]

thanks guys, keep it coming. VERY USEFUL FEEDBACK

Andy

 

[Gaz_]

I haven't driven a 200 or 1*2 but I have no problems with flat spots or anything, I find my car very smooth! Saying that though, it's always nice to see some engine development...ITB's!

denial!!

In a high gear (5th), start from like 20mph, it will not pull clean from 1.5 - 4k. You will fell the flatspots

 

[K-Tec Racing]

this will no doubt we emisions based control and hard to remove..... but we are working on a solution..

Andy

 

[Gaz_]

I'll be first in line if you do!! Only thing that irritates me!!

 

[Tav]

See: http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=439937&highlight=netherlands

 

[Chris205]

I currently own a 172 and had a ride out in my mates brand new 197 a couple of years back now, wasnt impressed at all to be fair, just lacked torque pretty much all over the rev range

I would love to buy one but the lack of engine tuning available with proven good results puts me off as I couldnt live with its lazyness

I think chassis wise its brilliant out of the box, and they're plenty of coilovers available, maybe make some cheaper ones for people on a budget

I think they all came with 4 pots standard (not 100% on that though) so cant see the need for them to be upgraded, if anything better pads would be a start if you cant already get them

Other than that I cant think of anything, other than the gearbox which would be far to costy to rectify

*hope this helps as a possible buyer in the future*

 

[Ribena]

denial!!

In a high gear (5th), start from like 20mph, it will not pull clean from 1.5 - 4k. You will fell the flatspots

20mph in 5th Maybe the flatspot does exist but I try to be in the "correct" gear at all times...I find working the gearbox in the 197 to be one of the most satisfying bits of he whole experience!

The only time I've experienced some loss in power was when I tried taking the airbox lid off for extra noyze - fun for a while but gets a bit tedious.

I would like to see some bonnet struts/dampers for the 197...it's too heavy for me to lift

 

[Gaz_]

No i dont drive like that, but its there in all of them, trust me

 

[MikeLYR27]

Just power and more power. Like others have said a good remap with more low grunt. Mines standard with 37k on, feels better and faster than it used to at all rev's but still wants to be better. Do you guy's do all the cam's, superchargers, ITB's etc? Heard about you testing them or developing them but cant see anything on the website? Im very interested but cant find anything:S

Oh, 17inch turnis would be nice

 

[K-Tec Racing]

This is good guys... keep it coming...

Andy

 

[Liambo-235]

Front splitter like the 1*2's and maybe a new spoiler?

 

[Matt197]

I would like a CF splitter for mine, but currently no ones makes them.

 

[Rossy197]

More power needed for sure, Mine is not sluggish at all but does not feel up to par with my old 182

Turbo, Supercharger, ITB's definately required

Infact i'm going for the turbo option when its available, Boost FTW

 

[KungFuSpaghetti]

I'd like to see them made worse, that way I'll feel better about having a near 10 year old 172

 

[Mr Burns]

I'd like to see them made worse, that way I'll feel better about having a near 10 year old 172

Pmsl!

 

[K-Tec Racing]

ITB's...

what are your thoughts vs SC and Turbo

 

[Raptor6767]

Uhh...I would like to have a turbocharged 197. :hail:

 

[MikeLYR27]

^^Supercharged for me!!

 

[Rossy197]

Turbo for me !

How far have you got with the design / fitment yet ?

got a few mods up and coming and this is one thing im defo going for

 

[K-Tec Racing]

design and fitment all sorted

just going throught testing and validation now.

We will release when we are all 100% happy with it

Andy

 

[Rossy197]

design and fitment all sorted

just going throught testing and validation now.

We will release when we are all 100% happy with it

Andy

Thank's Andy

Out of curiosity are the 197's producing more BHP & torque on the low boost kit than the 172/182 LBK ??

 

[Seriosha]

I personally just think that a supercharger would be better if we look at it from the driveability side!? Because the Power and Torque will be delivered constantly over the range and not punchy or rougher like from a Turbo. But well, that depends on the Turbo too, doesnt it . Just from the Fun side.. Turbo.

 

[K-Tec Racing]

Thank's Andy

Out of curiosity are the 197's producing more BHP & torque on the low boost kit than the 172/182 LBK ??

Details TBC!

wont be too long we hope...

 

[K-Tec Racing]

I personally just think that a supercharger would be better if we look at it from the driveability side!? Because the Power and Torque will be delivered constantly over the range and not punchy or rougher like from a Turbo. But well, that depends on the Turbo too, doesnt it . Just from the Fun side.. Turbo.

Agreed, different delivery with the same level of peak boost.

the SC will incrementally have more boost in almost direct relation to RPM, so therefore making peak boost at peak RPM. Flow and therefore torque can be controlled to smooth out the delivery for the road kits

the turbo will give a large kick lower down at circa 4k usually on a 2.0 with a GT25 or GT28 type turbo..

Andy

 

[Rossy197]

I understand what your saying in regards to the SC delivery of power, But for me you cant beat the sound of a turbo spooling then giving you that surge of power, Sure its not as refined as say the SC but we all go on about the 5k kick in the 1*2's and its something thats loved, The closest addition to the engine to replicate that would have to be a turbo charger IMO

Keep us updated Andy as im really interested in this along with some other things i would like you to carry out on my car

 

[K-Tec Racing]

if you wanted the 5k kick that can be mapped in, as on the std engine its an effect of the stock mapping that does that...

 

[Rossy197]

^^ Ok thanks

Im all for the Turbo though, SC has never appealed to me.. I need to go in both of your cars tbh...

 

[Ribena]

ITB's...

what are your thoughts vs SC and Turbo

ITB's win! any plans to develop an ITB kit for 197?

 

[K-Tec Racing]

there may be yes

 

[Emz_197]

More choice of splitters. Carbon fibre and that one that jase has on his 197.