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nope, otherwise I'd be back on your case over the money I spent for tuning that was never completed over 2 years ago to help towards the costs
Fred - didn't realise it was such a touchy subject? I'm just a bit curious as to all the accolades these systems are getting when to me it just looks like any other system you can get. What justifies the £460 plus £25 delivery over any other system, performance better than competitors? etc etc
do you fancy a job jesus?we need a new union rep at work i reckon you would be class
This is an example of another car but according to my standards,this is how a custom made exhaust system should look like.
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006012-1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006009.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006010.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006011.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006013.jpg
And the price for all that(excluding the cat cost) was not over 400E.
So the price for a cat back system for a Clio 182 would not exceed 600E for a complete system of a middle silencer,two back boxes and new pipes which is very close to the price of a cat back system by Magnex,Janspeed,etc...
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006012-1.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006009.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006010.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006011.jpg
http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DruliC/29052006013.jpg
And the price for all that(excluding the cat cost) was not over 400E.
So the price for a cat back system for a Clio 182 would not exceed 600E for a complete system of a middle silencer,two back boxes and new pipes which is very close to the price of a cat back system by Magnex,Janspeed,etc...
cock mobile.
At least you admit it :star: lol.
I'm sure these systems are very good in their own right, but after all the hype surrounding them I'm not overly impressed. They say they are mandrel bent, but looking closely that appears somewhat misleading as there are loads of weld points which looks like it's made from a load of different pre bent pipes. This might work fine, but proper mandrel bent system are usually one piece... sorry to cut through the hype, but imo it's expensive for a system that you can get from powerflow or similar who use the same method of welding all pre bent pipes and they only cost £250 fitted. The system on mine is £315+vat and is one pipe with proper mandrel bends all the way through, not made from 30 different bits of pipes welded together. Congrats on a good agressive sales pitch though lol
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
The TBR exhaust system i designed costs £0.46p + 35 min welding/cutting.
(Remdrel Bent)
Id say its the cheapest straightest system ever made (this side of the orbisoud)
Our sound is unique but its quiet inside the car when crusing.
I cant prove our gains but then who cares! im not selling them!
(Remdrel Bent)
Id say its the cheapest straightest system ever made (this side of the orbisoud)
Our sound is unique but its quiet inside the car when crusing.
I cant prove our gains but then who cares! im not selling them!
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Weeman sucks ****
here we go again.
'this forum needs an enema!'
'this forum needs an enema!'
jesus, can you tell me if I am the one please??
yup...
"you are the one...
...who posts spurious nonsense that at best can only be described as regurgitated material used in a vein attempt to get a laugh"
However, I love you all the same funny man
Tom, your system sounds the mutts nutts, when will Fisher Price be distributing these systems?
Weeman sucks ****
hi
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
Weeman sucks ****
Tom - so, let me get this right, you're saying if I stop using their rolling road they can start to produce your exhaust systems? I fail to see the connection, but will be sure to tell them lol.
Chris - sorry, too many people are happy to **** off other companies and ignore any geniune concerns over the fan favorites. If you think that the YS system is money well spent then fair enough, go spend £500 on one, I'm just utterly amazed that a forum with so many people don't dare ask the glaringly obvious due to getting flamed. By all means keep your head in the sand, I'm just asking a question on quality and pricing and being someone that spends money doing things to my car I'm perfectly entitled to ask how costs are justified. If it does something above the norm and or makes more power then great, lets see some proof.
And what the hell has Charles Babbage got to do with anything, the man was an mathmatician and mechanical engineer from the 18th century, I dont see the relation... is this another Clio sport pink shirt wearing brigade in joke that only the derranged understand?
Chris - sorry, too many people are happy to **** off other companies and ignore any geniune concerns over the fan favorites. If you think that the YS system is money well spent then fair enough, go spend £500 on one, I'm just utterly amazed that a forum with so many people don't dare ask the glaringly obvious due to getting flamed. By all means keep your head in the sand, I'm just asking a question on quality and pricing and being someone that spends money doing things to my car I'm perfectly entitled to ask how costs are justified. If it does something above the norm and or makes more power then great, lets see some proof.
And what the hell has Charles Babbage got to do with anything, the man was an mathmatician and mechanical engineer from the 18th century, I dont see the relation... is this another Clio sport pink shirt wearing brigade in joke that only the derranged understand?
Jesus
I will say it again - the system that the guy has put up here was our delvelopment system - hence it is made in the way that it was - its 2 years old and the guy is pleased with it.
Our systems are good quality - the best as far as we are concerned, and we have had no problems with any of them. I am sure we will at some point, but until then everyone seems to be happy with them.
So before you continue slanging our products - either come down and look at them OR stop spouting... its starting to get on my tits.
You are starting to sound like a broken record old boy... Its a YozzaX - Its shite, its over priced, its this its that... If you ever do buy anything that we sell - which I doubt - then you will be able to complain about it & I will listen, but stop slagging off our kit with your presumptions about welds and waffle and piff paff...
/y0z
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
Well i wouldnt want to put out a product without proving what it could do properly!
You are a rude little boy aren't you.
Your comments are boring and you do nothing for the image/reputation of your supported business. TBH id be put off using certain people purely because you do.
I had more respect for you before you started your utterly biased consumer crusade.
Tom
ClioSport Club Member
EV (s)
Weeman sucks ****
Were you born on hyde park corner jesus?
as if you two are not on the phone to each other
J; you say this...
T; now ill put that
J; OMG let me say this
T; hahahahah
J; hehehehe
T; look what ive just put
money isnt the issue hun
ewww feet i hate feet, there is a little thing called work that stops me going out between the hours of 8-6 monday to friday
Yoz - I'm just asking a question that other people dont seem to want to ask and obviously you dont want to actually answer any of it directly. How you can say the quality is the best I'm truely amazed at, it's clear from the pictures that the pipes are pre bent and just welded together, instead of one pipe mandrel bent to the backbox. Nothing really wrong with it, but I'm simply asking how the price is justified and still the question is avoided
You say your a tuner, fair enough, I've not said you are this or that, I've asked a question on pricing and quality which you have cleverly put a spin on to directly avoid answering. No where have I said it's s**t, amazing or otherwise, I've simply likened the system to a Powerflow one that also uses multiple different pre bent pipes welded to make a complete system and compared the prices. Their's cost £250, these are double. If there's no answer to the question then fair enough, just say there isn't instead of accusing me of mindlessly slagging your products off, as I did ask a question, just no one had an actual answer...
Weeman - you are badly in need of new material, really are scraping the barrel here... search google a bit harder for your next effort
You say your a tuner, fair enough, I've not said you are this or that, I've asked a question on pricing and quality which you have cleverly put a spin on to directly avoid answering. No where have I said it's s**t, amazing or otherwise, I've simply likened the system to a Powerflow one that also uses multiple different pre bent pipes welded to make a complete system and compared the prices. Their's cost £250, these are double. If there's no answer to the question then fair enough, just say there isn't instead of accusing me of mindlessly slagging your products off, as I did ask a question, just no one had an actual answer...
Weeman - you are badly in need of new material, really are scraping the barrel here... search google a bit harder for your next effort
This is getting silly no?
most full race exhausts made by the most reputable exhaust fabricators are not single peice, but a whole bunch of prebent segments........the flow notices nothing as back purged welds prevent any push through of weld.
And a single peice exhaust from manifold to backbox would make installation a royal pain on a clio.
Its pretty hard to get an exhaust system wrong, infact near impossible. But th 182 is particuarly tricky due to the space and silly twin pipes which need to be used.
most full race exhausts made by the most reputable exhaust fabricators are not single peice, but a whole bunch of prebent segments........the flow notices nothing as back purged welds prevent any push through of weld.
And a single peice exhaust from manifold to backbox would make installation a royal pain on a clio.
Its pretty hard to get an exhaust system wrong, infact near impossible. But th 182 is particuarly tricky due to the space and silly twin pipes which need to be used.
I just checked the link that Tom gave...
http://www.yozzasport.co.uk/store/proddetail.php?prod=clio_rs_182_cup_trophy_exhaust
4 to 8 bhp from a cat back system?:headno:
Sorry but no way...
Even Supersprint(which is one of the top manufacturers) claims only 5,4 bhp and that by using 60mm pipes and a 200cpsi catalyst.
http://www.supersprint.com/a_prodotti.asp?modello=rencli21
Orbisoud(60mm pipes and no middle silencer) claims around 10 bhp using a 200cpsi cat too but rolling roads show no more than 6 to 7 bhp.:dapprove:
http://www.yozzasport.co.uk/store/proddetail.php?prod=clio_rs_182_cup_trophy_exhaust
4 to 8 bhp from a cat back system?:headno:
Sorry but no way...
Even Supersprint(which is one of the top manufacturers) claims only 5,4 bhp and that by using 60mm pipes and a 200cpsi catalyst.
http://www.supersprint.com/a_prodotti.asp?modello=rencli21
Orbisoud(60mm pipes and no middle silencer) claims around 10 bhp using a 200cpsi cat too but rolling roads show no more than 6 to 7 bhp.:dapprove:
Turbos.
People on here don't know much, i certainly wouldn't claim to be an exhaust guru.
There is the problem where when people say an exhaust sounds cool it is therefore the best. Other people, obviously like TheJesus, use different definitions of what 'the best' is.
I totally see what he is saying, but i also don't agree that £500 is a lot to pay for an exhaust. You can pay £2k/£3k if you want. Clio owners aren't willing to pay a lot for an exhaust though, and the BTB exhaust proves this. So there has to be a compromise somewhere! Can't expect welds like a Kakimoto...
There is the problem where when people say an exhaust sounds cool it is therefore the best. Other people, obviously like TheJesus, use different definitions of what 'the best' is.
I totally see what he is saying, but i also don't agree that £500 is a lot to pay for an exhaust. You can pay £2k/£3k if you want. Clio owners aren't willing to pay a lot for an exhaust though, and the BTB exhaust proves this. So there has to be a compromise somewhere! Can't expect welds like a Kakimoto...
