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172 Ph1
There is a big heavy weight under the drivers engine mount . I'd be loosing that first of its not already been removed
Lol it's not a dig at you, there really is a big lump of metal under the engine mount
Ive heard about this weight jase. Anti vibration damper i believe.
I dont think cups have them unless ive missed it lol
Have a look at the upper engine mount, on the drivers side, if you look underneath it there will either be a weight or a gap as someone has already binned it. Weight loss depends on how far you want to go, carpets, sound deadening, seats, fibreglass panels, poly windows, airbags etc etc
Messing with them is every bit as important as driving them to me, some mods are down to necessity, some down to boredom lol
MarkCup
ClioSport Club Member
Are you trying to set lap records on track?
If not, don't bother.
I took 117 kgs out of my 172 Cup and it ended up 100% totally ruined. Became a real chore to drive...I so wish I'd never bothered and just left it exactly as it was.
Stripping weight out will gain you nothing, ease a little boredom, and ruin your car.
If not, don't bother.
I took 117 kgs out of my 172 Cup and it ended up 100% totally ruined. Became a real chore to drive...I so wish I'd never bothered and just left it exactly as it was.
Stripping weight out will gain you nothing, ease a little boredom, and ruin your car.
This.
Other than removing any potential value in the car (provided you do end up selling it, and not locking up all 4 wheels into a wall,cuz ABS is for faggots) you can pull all the trim out you like, but all you end up with is a buzzing rattle-box that will twist your tits clean off within a few miles.
Christ, my stock-as-stock 172 was rattlier than a spray can.
TheEvilGiraffe
ClioSport Club Member
You want to know if there's a way of taking weight out without taking anything out ?
How much do you weigh..
How much do you weigh..
That tar deadening crap is surprisingly heavy and does surprisingly little so thats where I would start.
That said my first trackday in the Clio I don't think having a passenger made any difference at all. If anything I had better traction lol
I use my car daily but its not a "daily driver" as such. I would much rather use my missus' Seat Mii for that but i've taken out
Rear seats
Rear wiper
All boot lid plastics
All tar deadening on the floorpan
Soft sound deadening
Rear carpet
Passenger underseat shelf thing
A lot of the sound deadening behind dash.
CD player
Speakers front and rear
havent touched the rear doorcards or belts.
and if im on track the spare wheel.
Would you notice the difference? f**k yes. Of course you will! I did!
That said my first trackday in the Clio I don't think having a passenger made any difference at all. If anything I had better traction lol
I use my car daily but its not a "daily driver" as such. I would much rather use my missus' Seat Mii for that but i've taken out
Rear seats
Rear wiper
All boot lid plastics
All tar deadening on the floorpan
Soft sound deadening
Rear carpet
Passenger underseat shelf thing
A lot of the sound deadening behind dash.
CD player
Speakers front and rear
havent touched the rear doorcards or belts.
and if im on track the spare wheel.
Would you notice the difference? f**k yes. Of course you will! I did!
massivewangers
ClioSport Club Member
Several
If it's a daily, I wouldn't do anything that is going to reduce refinement, as it will quickly become annoying. I use my Cup daily and it is hardly a world of refinement as it is.
Just make sure it has good tyres, good brakes and that everything is in good condition and enjoy it for what it is. I quite enjoy harassing people in dedicated track/race cars in my bog standard Clio on road tyres.
Just make sure it has good tyres, good brakes and that everything is in good condition and enjoy it for what it is. I quite enjoy harassing people in dedicated track/race cars in my bog standard Clio on road tyres.
330i. E30 Touring.
You've noticed more noise.
Not more power/speed.
Well that b****cks because if I was to add that weight back in I'd know straight away. I can noticeably feel the difference with the spare wheel out (I wouldnt be surprised if the whole lot tyre and tools, jack weighed about 30-35 kg with how heavy that feels)
Then factor in lets say 10kg for the sound deadening removed, a kilo for the rear wiper, lets say 15kg for the rear seats and 5 for the misc ellaneous stuff thats another 30kg if im being a bit conservative so lets say thats 60kg all in.
Thats 3 bags of sand or cement.
If you can't feel that when you are driving then you dont belong behind a wheel.
Thats 3 bags of sand or cement.
If you can't feel that when you are driving then you dont belong behind a wheel.
In a straight line no. Low down acceleration and cornering? Yes very noticeable imo
Not being funny I know my car inside out and could notice a pair of slippers on the back seat lol
I prefer keeping some weight over the driven wheels if honest....
...oh, oh yeah. :wink:
EDIT: OK, if being fair and honest, I can notice if a passenger is in the car (aside from them being sat next to me, of course), and that's only an average of 20kg more than you're talking about.
...oh, oh yeah. :wink:
EDIT: OK, if being fair and honest, I can notice if a passenger is in the car (aside from them being sat next to me, of course), and that's only an average of 20kg more than you're talking about.
TheEvilGiraffe
ClioSport Club Member
Sadly not. I don't think I could tell anything less than 10kg imo.
