What Engine do we think this is?

[_Tom]

It was in a golf at Volksfest? A straight 6 or some sorts..

 

[DIDITNO]

vr6 with tb's maybe?

 

[_Tom]

VR's arent straight 6's?

 

[steviet]

Its a vr6. the shorter trumpets are feeding the rear cylinders, Its a very narrow angled v6, with a single cylinder head.

 

[Kneel]

It could be a VR6, they are only slightly 'V' shaped, ie by 10 degrees or something so they arent far from inline 6.

 

[Mark One]

definitely a VR6
The V angle is about 15 degrees or less iirc. They are barely a V. They would be straight but the slight V means that the engine doesent need to be quite so long.
Not really a V-engine as they have a single bank of cylinders.

 

[fmp_]

VR's arent straight 6's?

correct, and nor is the picture posted, like people have said!

 

[Russ_16v]

Agreed with the above the angle is 15 degrees

good engines, mine made 197 lb ft of torque with basic mods

 

[AlexG]

VR6's sound awesome.

 

[Russ_16v]

Here ya go, the noise of my 1993 Golf VR6, K+N filter in my own made enclosed box, with a AmD remap

 

[Darren S]

It was in a golf at Volksfest? A straight 6 or some sorts..

Impressive plumbing on that! Is that in a Mk.1 Golf, too?

D.

 

[BIFCAIDS]

i can safely say Dazza it is a mk1 golf

even tho we now know its not a straight 6 VR6 engine doesnt look like that

 

[Laura]

not so sure its a vr6 tbh , the rocker cover doesnt look right

 

[Ian_182]

Looks like a nice bit of work has gone into that.

 

[graeme.s]

not so sure its a vr6 tbh , the rocker cover doesnt look right

it lookd different because theres no inlet manifold hiding the rocker cover, google images confirmed that its a vr6

 

[Laura]

the oil filler cap is in the wrong place tho

 

[BIFCAIDS]

weres the supercharger on a VR6

 

[McBunny]

there isnt a charger on a vr6 just teh g60 and g40

 

[graeme.s]

the oil filler cap is in the wrong place tho

it only looks that way, i assume because theres so much of the inlet manifold towards the front of the bay.

this is a turbo one but gives you the idea. its the same rocker cover.

http://image.eurotuner.com/f/9142361/eurp_0710_04_z+1995_vw_gti_vr6+vr6_24v_overbored_engine.jpg

also see this

http://www.bentleypublishers.com/images/features/vu24/bentley.vu24.excerpt1.2004.mar.19.jam.jpg

 

[BIFCAIDS]

arr right i thought the VR6 had a charger my bad

 

[Russ_16v]

Its a different rocker cover thats all, it is a VR, cant tell if its a Golf/passat engine (2.8 engine code AAA) or the Corrado lump (2.9 engine code AVB)

Its the 1993 onwards engine though as its running a coil, in place of a dizzy

 

[Ian_182]

OBD2 or whatever it is

 

[Russ_16v]

OBD1 was upto 1995, then OBD2 took over

 

[Darren S]

Is there any benefit to having a narrow V setup? Is it purely to shrink the length of the engine, slightly - nothing more?

D.

 

[Darren S]

i can safely say Dazza it is a mk1 golf

even tho we now know its not a straight 6 VR6 engine doesnt look like that

Ah, nice one. I bet that bloody thing shifts then!

D.

 

[Russ_16v]

Is there any benefit to having a narrow V setup? Is it purely to shrink the length of the engine, slightly - nothing more?

D.

It was so it could be mounted transversly in a selected engine bay fella, means they could make the Golf for example try to compete with bigger engined cars, and so it could be fitted into the passat and Sharan too

 

[Winston]

Im saying thats not a VR engine like Laura

4 motion lump is my guess???

"Wheres the supercharger".... FLMAO!!!!

 

[Mark One]

Edit: ^^ Same basic Block though? ^^

Is there any benefit to having a narrow V setup? Is it purely to shrink the length of the engine, slightly - nothing more?

D.

The reason they did it is because an inline would have been too long for a transverse mount and a proper 90 degree V would be more expensive (requires 2 heads). VR6 engines are quite clever in that respect, but I wouldnt call it a good engine. They tend not to make good power (for size), they are heavy, they drink fuel. People just love to tell teh kids they have a 2.8V6 in their golf. They do respond really well to boost though.

 

[Russ_16v]

Im saying thats not a VR engine like Laura

4 motion lump is my guess

"Wheres the supercharger".... FLMAO!!!!

After looking at the picture slide for a BDE lump, i will say same mate, the 2.8 V6 out of the Golf 4motion, why didn't i think of that before :S swear im loosing it...

 

[Mark One]

Is there any benefit to having a narrow V setup? Is it purely to shrink the length of the engine, slightly - nothing more?

D.

if your wondering what the narrow V setup actually looks like. Have a look at the head gasket

 

[Tav]

It could be the 24v 4 Motion engine rather than the 12v VR6. They then took the basic concept further with the R32 and R36 engines. They sound great and do a good job of doing what they were designed for, lugging big German hatch backs down the motorway in a refined and smooth fashion.

Bloke from Aberdeen has a track day VR6, healthy note! Silly having a track car with a big engine hanging out over the front wheels but it's what he wanted I guess.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xpWCW1abj0

 

[broster@JAM-Sport]

it is a vr6 24v, 3.2 maybe.

 

[Russ_16v]

only thing is, its not running indevidual coils, its on a single coil pack, if it is 24v then it must be using old 12v ignition?

 

[broster@JAM-Sport]

would most likely be on aftermarket engine management, using the old 12v coil pack would run it on a wasted spark system, easy to wire up and work with.

 

[Darren S]

if your wondering what the narrow V setup actually looks like. Have a look at the head gasket

^^^^ - the same layout for the V5 but with a pot lopped off?

D.

 

[Russ_16v]

^^ basically yes matey

 

[_Tom]

So we think its the 24v lump with bodies? lol

 

[Russ_16v]

After colaberating everyones opinions together - Most likely a 2.8 24v out of a MK4 Golf 2.8 v6 4motion mate

204 BHP as standard

 

[Ian_182]

^^ basically yes matey

I remember reading this was to meet the new emissions standards that they made this lump into the V5.