Got STANCE? (Pic Heavy)

[JoeyD]

No, me neither, but I though I'd give it a try!

The day started out like this.
Wheels completely lost in the front arches, not quite positive camber, but not far off.

I disliked this. Alot!
So, I posted up a wanted thread for some 25mm spacers, and yesterday they arrived courtesy of Alex_C, Thanks again fella!
I carefully fitted them, as i've heard bad things about Delta Mics Bolts, and was left with this:

Yeah, not bad... but PH2 Dynamique wheels were fast becoming boring, and I needed a change.
So, following on from my thread "16" SuperT's" http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=509795 i fitted these, along with the spacers...

I then had big scary visions of the arch slicing the tyre open when cornering, so then proceeded to fit a pair of Camber bolts.
Set to Maximum negative the top of the wheels went underneath the arch - a little safer now. And it does look kinda cool!

Did the same to the other side, and fitted the rear wheels, and took it for a drive
Had to raise the front quite a bit too :dead:, and remove the arch linings... still scrubs FFS!

No, i couldn't be bothered to wash it, and yes it needs tyre gel...
But it took forever to make the thing driveable!

Think i'm going to invest in RS Arches next...
We'll see!

Thanks for reading
Comments & Critique welcome...

 

[theduck]

1) Take pictures of stance when car is level
2) Get rear camber

 

[JoeyD]

iFail!

nowhere seems to be level around here!
Didn't think the rear really needed much? apart from more spacing...

 

[theduck]

Looks like you have lots of camber on the front and nothing on the rear though, doesnt look right imo.

 

[Wests Renault]

looks good but i think the rear needs spacing and camber to match the front

 

[JoeyD]

That's exactly the case...
I think you're right actually, looking again.
Need to get saving my pennies again!

 

[Nafoff]

No, me neither, but I though I'd give it a try!

that genuinely made me lol...thankyou

 

[StevieG-09]

Looks cool! Where did you get the camber bolts? Can they be fitted to the rear the same way?

 

[Alastair.]

looks a tad silly, rear needs sorting, but getting there.

 

[ekaJ]

Looks good, needs rear doing as said though

 

[clio_andy]

Coming along nicely agree the rear needs more spacing & camber
Oh & the splitter..

 

[theduck]

Needs shims in the back iirc

 

[JoeyD]

i get what everyone is saying - i'm still not decided on it all myself.

And yeah, the rear needs to be seen to. All in good time!

Stevie G i got them from ebay - advertised for a suzuki vitara

 

[Nafoff]

Needs shims in the back iirc

indeed it does

 

[StevieG-09]

Some one link me?
they just replace the original wheel bolts do they?

 

[JoeyD]

They replace the top hub nut...

These should be the same!

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SUZUKI-VITARA-WAGON-SWIFT-LIANA-CAMBER-ADJUSTMENT-BOLTS-/350353744548?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5192b5e2a4

 

[JoeyD]

indeed it does

Who actually stocks these?
i have searched in the past - no joy

 

[SteveS Cup]

Looks hideous imho.

 

[JoeyD]

Thanks

not to everyones taste, i know!

 

[adamlewis01]

Which camber bolts are these? Car will look quality with the same at the back!

Edit; Doh, beaten to it!

 

[StevieG-09]

It's not the se way to do it on the rear isit?
Noob at this camber stuff But looks so cool

 

[JoeyD]

They're Eibach ones.

Can be had from K-tec, but they're proper expensive!



No, on the rear you need shims - like metal plates.
they go behind the drum/disc IIRC.

 

[theduck]

Who actually stocks these?
i have searched in the past - no joy

Try Fred@BTM

 

[JoeyD]

I'll give him a ring when my bank balance increases again, in that case!

 

[SteveS Cup]

Thanks

not to everyones taste, i know!

Thanks for taking that well!

Good luck with it, but I'm getting old, and going through front tyres every month will get on your tits.

Plus that's not stance...

This is.

 

[Jamie86]

Or proper Eibach ones for cheaper?

http://www.venommotorsport.com/product_details.php?id=6722&manufacturer=Eibach%20Alignment&category=Suspension

Looks loads better with spacers btw


Edit: Sorry just noticed ebay ones are Eibach as well..

 

[JoeyD]

Completely agree Steve. But i'm 18, and i love my car to be horribley inconvenient at every speedbump etc

i wasn't going for DUB stance BTW, otherwise yes, i've done it completely wrong!
was going for more "Cup Racer Stance"?! :S lol

 

[JoeyD]

Or proper Eibach ones for cheaper?

http://www.venommotorsport.com/product_details.php?id=6722&manufacturer=Eibach%20Alignment&category=Suspension

Looks loads better with spacers btw

Yeah sure, they'd work.
The ones i got are proper Eibach ones.
they just happen to be the same size as a Vitara!

& thanks

Edit: just saw your edit

 

[Nafoff]

Who actually stocks these?
i have searched in the past - no joy

Try Fred@BTM

Eibach do the camber shims also...thats what you want to be looking for - camber shims, not 100% sure were will be best to look but i can vouch for fred being a top bloke that will only be glad to help.

camber on a clio

 

[StevieG-09]

So in the pics is the camber +1.75 yeah?

 

[JoeyD]

i think mine should be around -3... although i've no idea.
no idea why they only say 1.75?


How many degrees is that Ph-reebone?
I do like those Image wheels TBH
/jealous

 

[StevieG-09]

Found the shims on venom, but they dont do them for clios :S
Only twingo, laguna, espace, and scenic..strange.
Quite cheap though!

 

[JoeyD]

twingo must be Very similar!
They're more or less the same car IIRC...

 

[StevieG-09]

At just short of £14 you cant really go wrong

http://www.venommotorsport.com/prod...facturer=Eibach Alignment&category=Suspension

 

[JoeyD]

lol - i would, but i genuinely can't put £14 to my name atm! :dapprove:

Edit: Rear camber shims from K-tec! http://www.k-tecracing.com/show_product.asp?id=3630

 

[StevieG-09]

They are for the sport model though.
They will be different to fit behind drums and disks you think?

 

[JoeyD]

Not a clue!
Think it's quite likely that they're different. Since the whole rear axle is different to a non-sport i believe?

 

[StevieG-09]

Yeahh i think it is. hmm maybe ill try them twingo ones
Rear disc off job aint it?

 

[JoeyD]

yeah, it will be!
Let me know how you get on with those!

 

[DB.]

Looking better, back needs more!