Time & Attendance/HR systems

Yarp · Wednesday at 8:18 AM

Where better to turn than the good folk of CS.

I’m looking for a new T&A system to replace the one we currently use as it’s outdated and a bit rubbish. It also does all the access control doors for both our sites. As part of the project, there’s probably some value in looking to see if we can get an integrated HR, Payroll and T&A system to go to one fully integrated solution instead of 3 standalone systems.

I’ve used a few different HR, payroll and combined HR and payroll systems in the past but none of the ones I’ve worked with cover the time and attendance or access control.

Have you guys worked with anything decent that does all 3? Scope is pretty simple. It needs good reports, easy to use for managers/HR and remain simple for employees to update their details, book holidays and accept policies.

DetectivePenguin · Wednesday at 8:36 AM

How big is the company and what industry are you in? I've deployed quite a few over the years and they focus on slightly different industries.

Bluebeard · Wednesday at 8:55 AM

At my last place we had ‘Edays’.

Sickness, holiday, overtime, bonus etc etc for all 800 employees. As staff We could all access our own portal to request holidays and OT pay and as a boss I could authorise things that needed it, was a fairly straightforward and easy system to use.

Cads · Wednesday at 9:15 AM

Bluebeard said:
At my last place we had ‘Edays’.

There was a time when Edays meant something very different.
Sorry. Back on topic.

Yarp · Wednesday at 9:29 AM

DetectivePenguin said:
How big is the company and what industry are you in? I've deployed quite a few over the years and they focus on slightly different industries.

Headcount flexes seasonally but it’s a min of around 280 and peaks about 340 at Christmas.

Our sector is food manufacturing. It does bring some weird and wonderful rules like limiting the types of access fobs we can use to make sure they are metal detectable and locking down access to certain areas of the building. Our audits need us to demonstrate how we maintain product integrity and safety so access logs are an important part of demonstrating that.

Bluebeard said:
At my last place we had ‘Edays’.

Sickness, holiday, overtime, bonus etc etc for all 800 employees. As staff We could all access our own portal to request holidays and OT pay and as a boss I could authorise things that needed it, was a fairly straightforward and easy system to use.

I’m sure our drugs and alcohol policy specifically bans edays but I’ll fire up google, cheers 👍

Advikaz · Wednesday at 9:56 AM

I use a mixture of

Bright HR
Connectwise (soon to be Service Now)
Salesforce

Krarl · Wednesday at 10:01 AM

Yarp said:
I’m sure our drugs and alcohol policy specifically bans edays but I’ll fire up google, cheers 👍

No Gary Fridays?

Woke that

DetectivePenguin · Wednesday at 11:12 AM

Many of the systems I've implemented are for logistics and retail but at a much bigger scale so they maybe a bit pricey compared to smaller suppliers.

Dayforce is becoming the current favourite for businesses with a large contingent of front line workers as they offer a hcm, wfm, t&a and a managed payroll service. Cost is dependant on company size and they bill based on a pepm model.

Personio is a very good hcm and time management system for small companies. We use this in mainland Europe and it fulfils our needs. You will need to sign a separate payroll or manage payroll agreement.

Infor andForth have manufacturing and retail based ecospheres but you need to buy all of their products to make it work well.

ADP and UKG (formally Kronos) are meant to be good but I've not implemented one yet.

Yarp · Wednesday at 6:21 PM

Krarl said:
No Gary Fridays?

Woke that

It’s the world we now live in unfortunately. Gone are the good old days of double dropping for lunch then sitting on the production line with your jaw swinging like a fairground pirate ship 🙁

Krarl · Wednesday at 6:22 PM

Yarp said:
It’s the world we now live in unfortunately. Gone are the good old days of double dropping for lunch then sitting on the production line with your jaw swinging like a fairground pirate ship 🙁

Games gone

Yarp · Wednesday at 6:24 PM

DetectivePenguin said:
Many of the systems I've implemented are for logistics and retail but at a much bigger scale so they maybe a bit pricey compared to smaller suppliers.

Dayforce is becoming the current favourite for businesses with a large contingent of front line workers as they offer a hcm, wfm, t&a and a managed payroll service. Cost is dependant on company size and they bill based on a pepm model.

Personio is a very good hcm and time management system for small companies. We use this in mainland Europe and it fulfils our needs. You will need to sign a separate payroll or manage payroll agreement.

Infor andForth have manufacturing and retail based ecospheres but you need to buy all of their products to make it work well.

ADP and UKG (formally Kronos) are meant to be good but I've not implemented one yet.

Thanks. I’ve requested some info from Dayforce and personio so see what they say. We’ve got ops in the nordics who may want to jump on board so something that could be used group wide is nice.

We use Infor M3 as our ERP system but the HR bolt on is nasty for that bit. I’ve used ADP before and it was a bit clunky but a good few years ago. Our old Kronos system was fab for T&A but the payroll and HR modules were terrible so we moved away. Again, a good few years back now mind.

Marc. · Friday at 2:50 PM

I’ve used BrightHR in the past, it won’t do everything you’re asking of it though, I don’t believe.

Tom · 2024-11-18T14:24:43+0000

I use a mixture of:

Unifi Access
Timetastic

Darren S · 2024-11-18T15:35:26+0000

Do not use anything from this place - unless your expectations are less than a Texas Instruments Speak & Spell.

https://www.timeandattendance.co.uk/

Got these at work and they are pure toilet. The manager of our department can't even run a simple report to snapshot a list of staff holidays, booked for the year. Regularly has issues with both Android and iOS and looks like it was coded someway back in 1996.

Absolute horse.

Tom · 2024-11-19T12:06:24+0000

Darren S said:
Do not use anything from this place - unless your expectations are less than a Texas Instruments Speak & Spell.

https://www.timeandattendance.co.uk/

Got these at work and they are pure toilet. The manager of our department can't even run a simple report to snapshot a list of staff holidays, booked for the year. Regularly has issues with both Android and iOS and looks like it was coded someway back in 1996.

Absolute horse.

I've just phased one of those systems out. Toilet.

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