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The new 200 bhp Clio sounds like it will be terrific, but whats the odds some people here reckon it is not as good as the MK 1 Williams ? :p

It may well have been the best hot hatch in 1993, but where many people get carried away is to call it the best hot hatch EVER. That is a sweeping statement of manic proportions. It is way down on power and torque compared to lots of modern hot hatches, including some that I have owned, for...

Nobody is talking out of their arse. Well, at least, not until you accused me of same that is.......you are in that respect....... Hold on to the past by all means, but the V6 is way better than a Mark 1 Williams in every measurable way. I left one for dead recently. If that car is...

Yeah, but compared to a MK2 Clio V6, the Mk1 Williams is way down on performance and looks and class. The V6 is unique. Nothing quite like it. Loads of modern 4-pot hatchbacks can do what a Williams does.

I have. Like I said above!

Nearly managed to catch your eye again. You whizzed through South Normanton this time.

After a turbo-Capri I had, it is fine for handling at any speed !

Near enough then. Cheers. Lets hope the moderators dont have another heart attack ! :confused:

I recently asked a question about the performance capabilities of the Clio V6 (2004 model), the thread of which which has been removed for some unknown reason. (In case someone in authority here is very over-sensitive, (I would remind them though, that cars like the 182 and V6 are made to be...

Well I think it is tons better than any model of now-dated Williams. (Sure it was good in 1993 or whenever, but time waits for no man...or machine.)

Did the Williams not improve, as it got older then? Did the MK3 not move the model forward? I have never driven a Williams, admittedly. I only ask because most of the cars I have had improved with age. (Lancer Evolution 8 over 5, Vectra over Cavalier, new Mini over old, etc.)

Tough to put a price on, with all those mods. Some people will run a mile, whereas others may think it ideally-fettled.

I saw a feature in a car magazine at the dental surgery today, which was quite interesting. It was from a year or more back and the article was discussing which Clio the writers would have, from all the various sporty ones produced over the years. Leaving cost, resale value, etc., to one...

Was that you, with the V6 numberplate ?

EVO and TEST DRIVE are good, fun, magazines.

Test Drive magazine, June, has a 6-page spread on me choosing the Holden VXR 6.0, actually. I bought a black one. Nice day out driving several V8s !