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Had a few chats with several people today. My EVO340 was a great car, with a quick motor, so I will look out for an engine from a 300/320/330/340 Evolution and see how it goes.

Looking at getting a motor engineer in Birmingham (he puts motorcycle engines in Westfields, etc.) to price me up putting in an engine from a crashed 2003 TVR. I can get hold of a low-mileage TVR T350 powerplant, which is both light and powerful. The weight of the finished car would actually...

I just wondered if another engine might fit, something well-known by the tuning industry preferably.

Seen advertised.

For sale with a blown engine (big time---huge oil leak and then seizure at 7000 rpm on a track.) Body good. So which other engine might be suitable for a transplant into the Clio? Any good motors come to mind? Car is going for £5,000 cash, so a good opportunity for a special car I think!

I have it from the factory source that it will be a lot better than a 182. The guy has driven the thing. He knows.

I had a fully-packed 182. The best money I ever spent on any car. May 2004. £12500 on the road, all options.

It will have several engine improvements, will be better aerodynamically and will have more torque in the mid-range. 200ps (197bhp) will be present and correct and will indeed, make it the best Supermini in the world. At current exchange rates, we are looking at £16000.

Also the Civic Type R has had 200ps, 197bhp, for ages. They cannot let the Clio have less power in 2006 than the opposition had 5 years ago !

A guy in France we have met (lives next dooor to where we stay) several times is in r and d at Renault.

The factory Clio range-topper will have 200 bhp.

Some info. in Autocar today. The rest I heard in Paris at the weekend. I have it on very good authority that the new 200bhp version will be a lot better than the 182. More expensive but superior in many ways.

Like it. 200bhp Renaultsport version will be a cracker. Rumoured to be a lot better than the 182 and around £14K.

Clio 182 for sale in Auto Trader for just £9000. That is admittedly a great car for the money. May 2004 model without any options, but still a steal. One thing with the V6 is that they aint around for cheap money and probably wont ever be.

James, looks like you have been put right on this one, old fruit ! V6=ULTIMATE CLIO ! :D

To balance things out here a little (what AM I saying!), give me the choice of a Ford, Vauxhall or Toyota sports hatch from the mid-90s, or a Williams and the Renault wins hands-down. Give me a Williams MK3 please, my favourite version. It towered above the likes of XR3i, Astra and Corolla...

Any comparison has to be as standard cars. Standard Clio V6 2004 versus standard Clio Williams MK1 1993. DOH...I wonder which one most car enthusiasts would prefer as a present (to drive, not sell.) The screamin 6-pot of course. Quicker, faster, better looking, better sounding, more...

Well put. The V6 offers a certain something no 1993, 150 bhp, 2-litre 4-pot ever could. Not just the performance gulf. A 2005 Fiesta ST150 will do everything a Williams can. In fact it has better wheels and brakes. The ST would look stupid up against a V6 Clio. [Edited by Vee Six on 19...

AH ! But they are also way more experienced, rather than the new Garry-boy on the block.;) Wont crash as often either. (Ask the insurance companies for proof of these facts. :D

Phew, 6 cylinders versus 4 never was so much fun ! :)

The thing is, Simon, my mates Westfield cost him £2000 (1989 chassis with Escort GTI engine from 1998) and has 135 bhp & weighs a tiny 500kgs. It is like lightning around a track, but how many of us spend any real time on a TIGHT RACETRACK? This track thing is nonsense. Yes, I love the...

Rather harsh I thought, that last post. :o

That is it. That is the point. A flagship, to aspire to own. Once you do, you wont want a 182 or a Williams in a hurry, FINE cars though they are. Trust me on that. My point is that the V6 is on another level, for all the many reasons already explained.

Works fine for me. Looks quick. Nice one.

I bet the owner loves you for calling it £2500-worth!

Until it meets a V6 like mine on a clear stretch and it shows the kit-car a 30+ mph advantage and they dont even know where the gorgeous sounding 6-pot went !

[Edited by Vee Six on 18 June 2005 at 9:12am]

Agreed, good performance there.

Pretty good, how much power does that car have? Good acceleration there. Pity it is about 45 mph too slow though.