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This thread alone has convinced me to buy a 360 and Forza 4. If I don't like it, I'm coming round all your houses and kicking all your arses :)

Ok, how much single player material is there in this game? My major gripe with GT5 is the lack of much SP content, and the fact it was all so dam easy.

No I have bought 3 Win7 upgrades from there. They never check you are a student.

The trigger extenders make the world of difference. It was almost impossible to use the triggers before, but with them its almost (but not quite) as good as using a 360 pad.

Anyone want to lend me an xbox?

GT1 was a milestone in my gaming life. I can remember buying it, and I can remember playing it for years. Spending ages getting gold on all the license tests to unlock the Dodge Concept car. Repeating the Sunday Cup over and over to earn enough credits to buy the Toms Supra. Racing the Grand...

Some nice digs at GT5 in there :) They have a point though, I'd want to have a blast in most of the cars on the Forza 4 list, while there are masses in GT5 that I have absolutely no interest in (Corsa B Comfort, anyone?).

GT3, and I agree

My god, I can still remember the tune to the GT1 intro movie, and the GT3 one. Cant remember GT4 though, I think thats when they started the 'arty' into movies.

All GT games have had questionable menu music. Its kind of a feature of the series :)

I played previous GT games solidly for years, and they were all SP only. Online should be an added bonus to GT5, not the feature that keeps an otherwise average game above water.

The key thing for me is, I havent enjoyed GT5 as much as I enjoyed GT1, 2, 3 or 4. I was a massive GT fanboy, but to me GT5 just feels a bit sterile and cold. Like its not fun. Its hard to explain, but I dont get that same feeling of enjoying the racing on it. Don't get me wrong, its still a...

Jeese, if I did 100% races with my current FF settings on my wheel, my arms would fall off!

Just seen the GT5 update. $5 for a single track, $8 for a bunch of re skinned cars already in the game... Maybe Forza 4 isn't such a rip off after all...

This might be the start of a worrying trend of paid for DLC that is all a bit 'meh'. Suddenly Forza 4 doesn't look like such a rip off.

I wanted to get Forza 4. It would cost me the price of buying a 360. £60 for the game £5 a month for the DLC And an XBL subscription I no longer want Forza 4.

Lol, just noticed Play.com have Forza 4 listed as Kinect Compatible. How would that work?

I bought a 360 for GTA4... realised it was pointless owning a console for a single game, sold it. I bought a PS3 for GT5... realised it was pointless owning a console for a single game, so bought a few more, but pretty much use it for just BluRay Please convince me buying a 360 (again) just for...

I found a couple of races like that in 2010. I would be fighting for places 15-20 most of the first season, yet managed to win Canada by about 20 seconds....

Is there a time limit on editing posts? Anyway, given the choice, if you could get a set of PE2s for £150 at 15", and your car was to be used rarely, and when it is, most on a track, and your wheels would be your only set and so would need to be driven home on, would you buy the PE2's? Or would...

Well thats kinda stating the obvious, all round road tyres vs soft sticky track tyres!

Who said anything about Rainsports?

Service Light + Airbag light is likely the cables under the seat. Just fiddle with them, push the connectors back together, and see if it clears the airbag light.

2x as brilliant as T1R's?

Ideally yes. Tyre walls any worse than T1R's? Gonna be on 15's.

Any good (ignoring the fact their quite expensive)?

When compared to more expensive coilovers, probably. But how do they compare to the stock suspension, which, at the price the Racelands are now, is actually a more expensive setup than the coilies.

Got these for my birthday from some mates months ago. Finally got round to getting some Velcro tape and got them fitted :D:p

Fronts are unknown, rears are almost brand new.

Are the Racelands that bad? Or is it just cheap coilover snobbery?