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Weighs less than yours too... ;)

Repair as in paint, or more serious damage?!

The number of studs has no effect on the calipers mate... However the discs are a problem, but there will probably be some of the same diameter in a 4 stud pattern to fit!

Yeah, looks different in those pics to the other ones Ive seen... As for stripes, deffo not for me!

Sooooooo much easier on the Cup! Did mine a couple of weeks ago and had heard the horror stories about it being hard, but was not a problem...

Hmmmm... I aint that keen on the racing blue now going off those pics!

Nah, thats not an issue here, the calipers will (or should) fit a Clio with large enough wheels...

The mk1 had quite a bit less actually, hence why they weight less. You still get leather/alcantara, ABS, aircon (not climate control), radio-cassette & 6 CD changer, trip computer, etc... but no auto lights or wipers, normal headlights (not xenons), no ESP, no cruise, etc...

Aye

Because the Contis are sh!te?!

If the 182 had been available when I got my Cup Id have most likely gone for one of them... As for which is faster, theres gonna be f00k all in it on the road!

If you want the CC on a Cup anyway, then youd be better off going for a 182 with the Cup upgrades IMO...

Very true...

LOL Overlooked that part...

Thats for a wheel and a tyre...

Well if it has improved the low down torque then its still got less low/mid range power & torque than my Cup (which is standard apart from Viper) and still I do a strong surge at 500rpm!!! Me vs Dogmaul >>&gt...

Says in the handbook mate...

LOL It sounds daft, but it actually makes a lot of sense... I know of one ClioSporter that went on the Atkins diet already!!! :o

A whopping 25kg there, but you aint likely to be ripping that out! :oops:

They are driver "aids" not miracle workers...

Nah, weve already had all the stuff stripped out and weighed from a 172, and theres no way you can save the 89kg to get the kerb weight down to that of a Cup. Only saves about 40kg (ish) IIRC by removing spare wheel, rear seats, shelf, jack, etc... Will deffo improve things though!

Jesus... yet another 182 vs Cup thread... :confused:

Deja vu... We had this same discussion 2 days ago! :oops:

Not quite, but hes not far off price wise and delivery is quicker...

Mine is NOTHING like that though... http://members.lycos.co.uk/pug306rallye/Clio/Rich_D_Cup_RR_Graph_01.jpg (figures are @ wheels) Oddly a lot of 172s & Cups do have a peaky graph like yours (Dogmaul) but mine is oddly smooth and got loads of mid-range torque!

Mine doesnt surge until around 5000rpm

Yeah, I know they all have the surge, but some more than others... My point was that the RR graphs are all over the place and can look very different, so no two graphs are the same!

Theyre all bloody different though...

I do... ;)

LOL That mk2 172 was bl00dy quick though...