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You get the power @ wheels, then use the transmission losses to work out power @ fly. In the case of most fwd cars its ~15% so... 142.5bhp = 85% (of bhp @ fly) thus >>> [(142.5 / 85) x 100] = 167.6bhp @ fly Or, the Puma Racing method: [(bhp @ wheels + 10) / 0.9] = bhp @ fly...

mailto:B@stards">B@stards!!! :cry: p.s. Hows the Ecotek mate?!

The fuel warning light comes on when theres about a gallon left in the tank and the miles to fill up display goes to ---- at this point. Can get ~45 litres in if I fill up as soon as the light is on and the tank holds 50 litres, so about a gallon.

Mine is standard apart from a Viper... Oh, and some silverfusion bulbs! I can understand why youd keep say a mint Willy totally standard.

Cant be as bad as an R5 GT Turbo can it...

Probably just dont take new customers with mods, I know others are like that! Anyway, I just got a quote off their website and it was a f*cking rip off for me, so I aint gonna be going with them...

Ok, I really do not get this! :confused: Just been to the Liverpool Victoria site for a quote (my insurance is up next month anyway) and it clearly says the following >>> We cannot insure: Motor cycles, vans, pick ups, minibuses. Cars which have not been manufactured for the...

Good things come to those that wait... :cool: I am also planning to keep my Cup for a while, so I didnt wanna just kick its t!ts on from day one and then have problems in later life.

Run it in mate, I did... The book says no more than 3500rpm (or 80mph) for the first 1000km (625 miles) and I stuck to this. At York Dragway last weekend with only 2700 miles on the clock I ran the 1/4 mile in 14.5secs @ 94mph, so this cr@p about ragging them from new makes them quicker than...

Yeah, I aint a fan of the big oval either...

Might be more room in a Cup compared to a 172 in that area?!

You have to get an R-Sport ECU mate!

Gonna be mint when its all done mate... :D

The seats are the same underneath, so you could just get the leather/alcantara covers from Renault and fit them onto your existing seat frames. Might cost a LOT of money though...

Theres an easier way to route the cold air feed down to the lower grill...

So where is this place and whats it called???

Well, 142.5bhp @ wheels = approx 170bhp @ fly so pretty much spot on! The 172 in the name is 172bhp (DIN) and is actually ~170hp in UK terms, so your car is not underpowered, its as it should be. BP Ultimate is only 97 RON mate, so you were told porkies! Use Optimax as thats at least 98...

TimO swapped from a 172 to a Cup and he loves it! If you are going to be doing track work then yes the Cup is the one to go for...

Its 138mph apparantly...

Will just be an ECU software update, its quite common... What age is your 172 mate?! When I had my 106 GTi that had the ECU flashed to the latest software and made the car smoother and seemed quicker, so likely to be the same thing here.

Prima 16s no question...

Saw a few of these on my hols this summer too...

Or stuff like the Visa GTi ;)

Yup, this has been done by a few people and Hill Power do a fog light scoop to suit

This is true, but... The power & torque curves will be dropping off fast at the higher revs, so theres actually no point/need to sing it round into the red in the higher gears. Also, to be able to pull a 172 to a "genuine" 156mph on a level road will take a lot of doing!

Correct... It just warns you that youre approaching the limiter, hence why it comes on earlier when the car is cold(er) and the rev limit is restricted!

Its on the left of the rev counter on the mk1 (if fitted) and its a better place than where it is oin a mk2/Cup! To be honest, I dont even use it as I cant feckin see it!!!

Here you go >>> http://www.cliosport.net/gallery/clio172/arjun4.jpg Its the big plastic engine cover thats colour coded in this case! Now heres one thats removed, like the Cup >>> http://www.cliosport.net/gallery/clio172/maurits4.jpg HTH

No, the speedos are actually pretty accurate, even at those speeds and several have been tested with GPS to confirm!

Got a Viper on my Cup and Im very please with it... The car is standard apart from the Viper and I ran 14.5secs @ 94mph at York on Sunday!