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Cheers mate, Thanks for support and parts also!

Ph1 fuel rail does not fit 197 inlet, shame I did not figure it out before buying one. So need to make the 197 fuel rail to accept return.

I don't have a problem to pay a little more if sachs is better. But almost every one recommend Valeo...

Hi, Is anyone using a sachs clutch on a 172 182 Clio? I just replace the crankshaft seal and realize the Valeo pressure plate has a crack near a bolt. I run a standard engine, and the clutch was replaced 30k miles ago. I do not trust Valeo clutches anymore and want to change with Luk or Sachs.

Can you tell us the steps you managed to get it right?

I've done a cambelt job yesterday. Using genuine tools, without keyed crank pulley and was spot on. I've done like: put the locking tools at cams, put the crank at tdc, put the horse shoe tools on pulleys (make sure that it does not spin when tight down the nuts, use a small 8mm wrench as...

Can anyone help me with how to remove and how to refit them? I need to bore the engine block but the machine shop does not help me with those. Cheers

Hi, This year I will start working on a new engine on my Clio. A complet 197 head with a mod to fit 172 engine block, forged internals, 197 crank and...a turbo:) For start I will run an ED turbo at 12 psi to see how it will be. I will update soon with parts and other work.

Always same pictures with the same blue car. You should sell it, it does not look great. I can take it if you cannot find someone!

Yes, I have problems with locking horseshoe tool and in that way I can align the grp n timing on my clio.

By looking at the cam ends, inset a feeler gauge into the top left or bottom right, to be a little advanced. Tight the inlet first using the horseshoe locking tool and then exhaust. In the end the crank pulley. Maybe this will work for you?

Just 6:)

I think the problem is when you lock the pulleys, the tend to rotate a little and create tension into the belt. If you tight the dephaser pulley first, when lock the exhaust, it does create tension on inlet and r****d the cam a little.

Did you use OEM locking tools?

I don't think 1 degree can cause damaged. I mean I am sure did not cause. If the tool fits snug into cams, you can't use a feeler gauge @Archtronics

I bet it will be fine if the tool fit, but not wiggle.

I think only lower combustion chamber and if you got any intake for 172 you can't use on 197...

Hello old topic. Now it is hard to find a ph1 rail. Does anyone how can you convert a ph2 one?

Add the "Renault sport" badge and test fit a cambelt protection. It does need some small adjustment because the aux pulley does touch the plate, but not a big deal to solve.

I don't. The air should be fine there and I am sure is no restriction caused by pipes.

I've just put the ph1 airbox in my Clio. The noise is great, I will keep it:) In terms of performance, I don't think is anything better.

I have a keyed crank pulley, and when I lock the cams with the horseshoe tool, they move a little and create a tension in the belt. So I remove the crank pin, turn a small amount and then tighten up the cams pulleys and turn the engine 2 times and put the cam locking tools and see if the pin...

I did not use the pin in the crankshaft and rotate a small amount anticlockwise.

Hi there! Thanks a lot for appreciation. I could not find anyone that could help so I start to work alone and I am very happy. It was not that easy to work alone on the engine, but I managed to get it done without any left screws :)) The spoiler is the one from Italy, with 2 lines on it instead...

New spoiler in place:)

When you have time please upload a better pic. Thanks a lot! This will help me!

The 172 combustion chamber is almost like 225. And the 197 drops the CR with about 0.7:1 (almost like a thicker head gasket (Megane one) compared to thinner head gasket (Clio 172 one) ). So with the amount of skimming I should be able to be very close to 9:1 with thinner head gasket, 197 head...

I understand now. If this will be the case I will just use the stock head. The CR will drop with around 1.2:1 compared to stock ph2. The problem is the difference between 225 head and 197. I will wait for the answer. Thank you!

So for using the 197 head a stock 0.65mm will result a CR at around low 9:1? For using the ph2 head I need to run thicker gasket, right? As combustion chamber looks similar. Is there a good reason for running a ph2 one? Thanks a lot

Hello, I'm building and engine for my 172 Clio. I will want to run at around 280-300hp to keep stock gearbox/driveshafts. The setup will be: 172 engine block, bored to 83mm pistons PEC/Wossner combo 9:1 CR for megane Helix clutch 197 head g28r turbo 172 cams 197 solenoid with 172 dephaser...