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1 tonne = 1000kg

For reference here are the official weight figures for the 172s. Dont know about valvers etc. mk1 172 = 1035kg mk2 172 = 1110kg Cup 172 = 1021kg

Following on from the discussions on power to weight ratios I was wondering who has the most powerful Clio once you take passenger weight into account? I myself weigh 11.6 Stone/73Kg. My car weighs 1035kg (according to official figures) So 1035+73 = 1108 172/1108 = 0.1552 That gives me...

mk1s only came with a 1 year warranty.

Well no its not like that is it. Mk1, Mk2 and the Cup all have exactly the same engine. Come on think!

Actually it is true. EVO tested all 3 cars as well and the Cup beat the V6. Doesnt suprise me around a twisty track.

LOL, Yes, it my mission to save weight. I have already ditched the spare wheel for a can of "get me home foam". Seriously though weight saving is a cost effective way of increasing the performance of your car. My next idea is to save some passenger weight by going on a diet and getting a slimmer...

I watched it too. Was trying to do some studying but it distracted me! Im starting to really like the Cup.

Yeah I thought that could be a problem with the mk1s but for a car out of warranty it doesnt matter that much anyway as a hill power chip or similar will do just the same thing.

So will it work on a mk1 or not!? LOL.

your car must have been cold. The limiter should come in at 7250.

Will it be ok in a mk1??

If your wheels are like mine you will also need some tar remover. Autoglym stuff again.

I once used a brillo pad to remove tar from my paintwork.

Just seen my first one. They look pretty mean but to be honest I would rather have the new Clio V6!

Just seen my first one. They look pretty mean but to be honest I would rather have the new Clio V6!

Just apply some more when that starts to happen. I will try it on my paint next to see how that goes. It is supposed to keep your car cleaner for longer! We shall see!

That is pig ugly.

Just apply some more when that starts to happen. I will try it on my paint next to see how that goes. It is supposed to keep your car cleaner for longer! We shall see!

That is pig ugly.

Well it doesnt say anything about not putting it on the windscreen on the bottle Ive got. Not sure where its from as it was a xmas gift but it cost about £12 for a 236ml bottle. I am told though that once you have the bottle you can buy refills which are cheaper.

Well it doesnt say anything about not putting it on the windscreen on the bottle Ive got. Not sure where its from as it was a xmas gift but it cost about £12 for a 236ml bottle. I am told though that once you have the bottle you can buy refills which are cheaper.

Anyone used this product? Apparently you can use it on bodywork and glass. Its supposed to produce a glaze that stops water clinging to the surface. I used it on my windscreen yesterday and it seems to work really well. Dont even need to use my wipers!

Anyone used this product? Apparently you can use it on bodywork and glass. Its supposed to produce a glaze that stops water clinging to the surface. I used it on my windscreen yesterday and it seems to work really well. Dont even need to use my wipers!

I would imagine them to be almost identical. Will be very interesting to hear your findings!

I would imagine them to be almost identical. Will be very interesting to hear your findings!

What is rsc?

Evo describe the chassis as being "made out of loo roll and old socks"!

"the mk1 looks tired and old" Thats a bit harsh!

Each to their own I say. What I tend to find with both cars is they look better from certain angles. Sometimes both can look pretty ordinary but other times they can look really mean. The mk2 has grown on me a alot and I think its abit unfair to say that it doesnt look much different from...