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What is the difference in track width both front and rear between the various 172/182's?

Sizes?

Worth doing, front only or front and rear and what size?

Doh, sorry, thats 195/50-15, see for yourselves! http://www.camskill.co.uk/products.php?plid=m58b0s4429p0

R888 gone right up in price, R1R equally expensive....no cheap deals anywhere, including Camskill, £97 for R1R and £102 for R888's, both inc vat, was told you may be lucky and get trade but that's only 10 or 20%, certainly a BIG difference from £62!!!

Does anyone offer a steering wheel retrim service, have searched the boards and found this, but he's in N.I. http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=375325

There are no noise limits.

It would be good to see it some time, looks very low.

Well I delivered the Cup race car to Guernsey and it's now full ahead with the Fiat 131 Abarth. Car was a genuine homologation special 1 of 400 produced, 50 of which were taken by Abarth to go rallying, it won the world championship in '77, '78 & '80. I originally puchased the car 11 years ago...

Just sold mine for 11k with small spares package.

That interior is gash!

I believe the 97 pads are about £170.

Didn't find them too bad, used to give the wheels a once over after a track day and .... hey presto!

I can verify that!

1000lb front 400lb rear

Fred does!

Please don't do the roof scoop.

Well, the one place I used to get bad understeer wad the right hander before you go, onto the back straight at Snetterton, probably others but hey.

If I say no, am I a girl?

Sorry, I should have elaborated, the race car runs something like 1000lb front springs and 400lb rears, everyone is saying that on a modified road car, stiffer on the rear......why, they're essentially the same car, weight over front/rear etc.?

None when cold, rather more when hot.:D

But, (and I know I shouldn't start a sentence with but), when the race car and road car are essentially the same, why does there seem to be the discrepancy between the F/R spring rates?

also i find that i can get a pretty good setup for both the road (minimum bump with a reasonable amount of rebound) and for the track also (less rebound, more bump, rear much harder than the front) Why rear much harder than front when the race cars the other way around?

It's the same as AST coilovers, all I'm doing is running camber. What interests me more is that the standard cup car runs springs that are over double the stiffness on the front where as people on here are saying stiffer on the rear....go and figure, I wish I could.

Regarding the Whiteline anti roll bars, why hasn't my cup race car got one and I was blowing off all sorts of machinery at Spa including GT3 RS's amongst others. I'm not bragging, the car is phenomenal, but it has no ARB, runs front springs a lot stiffer than the rears etc., whereas road cars...

So, is it possible to make a road car as good as a race car on track, I probably think not, then how close can you realistically get? In the latest Evo, which we all know loves the Porsche GT3, even they are questioning weather it "is too track biased" as it skips along etc., etc. Have I just...

First of all, welcome to the forum Phil. Two things I think you can virtually guarantee on all the after market coilovers is that they're going to be lower and stiffer and that obviously equates to a better handling car(?)....plus it looks good. I'm sure that R&D has been done by some extent by...

Yeah, it all started a few years ago when I purchased a 182 cup, it ended up with H&R's, 2118's with Paradas and Brembo HC's with DS2500 pads, did lot's of track days with it as well as 30k or so so road miles, was so impressed with it that the race car followed but now I need to put the money...

As per title "cup race car going" should tell you that a cup race car is, well, going, ie being sold and therfor I'm on the lookout for a 172 to modify is the gist of it....is my English really that bad?

Well, it looks like the Cup Car will be gone in the not too distant future...:( and that means a road/track car is on the horizon. I'm not interested in engine mods as the money/bhp ratio is out the window, (hence why I purchased the Cup Car in the first place), so I suppose that just leaves...