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and then you have people with 182 manifolds on a 172....lol

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the cam duration is the 285 bit, the length of time the valve is open for. higher lift is pushing the valve open more. basically. there is a lot more than that, but i'm not sitting here all night. best bet is to ring a tuner and get the best one suitable to your application. Daz

I'm 6 miles from Lincoln. i'd like (depending on price) a new s/s system for my 172 cup. i'm after a non stealth, quieter than my powerflow, 2.5 bore system, lots of freeflow to squeeze every last bhp out. i'll quite happily loan my car for the right discount. cheers Daz

personally, get aftermarket ones cos the renault ones will leak again no doubt

yes the cams are level at TDC

just shame it's not a proper cup....:rasp:

God you're helpful. why don't you keep your comments to yourself if you can't say anything useful

does anyone know if they improve the handling on a track or provide more drag!

mmmm 979 kg. Be nice but don't believe everything you read. It also says a 182 is faster to 60 than a cup! Lol

good question. Probably price

how much power are we talking?

well you learn something new everyday.....didn't know renault did a 182 cup, thought they were all 182 ff with cup packs. Personally don't buy either. either get a trophy or a proper 172 cup.

Do you intend to keep standard ecu and dashboard? If not junk the standard sensors and use the omex ones

toyo r888 are meant to be a good track tyre.

I spun a big end bearing 500 miles after i rebuilt mine but gdi rebuilt it again and it's been fine since. Touch wood. Gdi are tops

mine wasn't a package from GDI, it's my own creation! lol. Andy just rebuilt it after it broke and tuned it.

that don't help really, does it? :nono:

you get what you pay for tbh. pay an extra £500 and you'll get a rollin road tune, however it then prices itself out of some people's budget.

I've done headwork. have you got high comp pistons? i'm also running 422 cams, are you? what do you think to them. was thinking about the next ones up...... by GDI? must of seen mine there, cos it was in there in nov.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=303721 172s and 182 don't make book figures. what mods have you? how long ago?

no cos i'm still making 233 at 7800. the power curve doesn't drop, because i have breathing problems or did have (172 manifold, sportscat) and the cams want to make more power. once i have the 182 manifold on with the first box in the right place (tuned length) then i should have 240-245. peak...

7800 but i'm running forged rods and pistons so i'm safe to 8200, then the cam followers start breaking up!

standard clutch doesn't take 190. i'm running 177ft lbs and mine's just exploded. i would say it would take circa 200bhp. uprated helix organic is only rated at 170 ftlb gearbox weakness is rubbish, unless your gearchange is rubbish i'm running catcams 422 and bodies and peak is at...

get em on the twisties! (god i hate that saying)

oh god, now you really have started something

at the end of the day it's only pub talk, bhp figures. save up for at bodies, they're lovely.

and to be fair a clio is fwd, so why have a spoiler on the back? look at the old escort cossie, the one without the whale tail was actually faster

yep i know what you mean. my 1/4 time is more than it was because now i can't get traction. but when it grips, christ it's quick