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it could happen in the future. but u'll have to wait for the current Meg to go out of production, and a new shape one arriving pushing maybe around 270 before a 197 will get a turbo upgrade. no way would renault let the clio step on the toes of the meg.

^^^ but aren't we talking about a 197 here?? she's already got a 182, and is changing for a 197 right? if its the 197, thats done at import centre, but u right about 182s.

^^^^ are u sure? cos, i'm 99% sure that the spoilers aren't done at factory, because they come up on a different order sheet to the rest of the options. They're classed as an accessory as opposed to an option. stuff like the tunepoint, spoiler, splitter etc. only gets done when it arrives...

oh, and yes, the cup spoiler is done at the import centre. wat price did they quote you on that? it should be abt £350 including painting and fitting IIRC.

tbh, they've messed u about a lot now. just walk away, and go to the "dealers" section of renaultsport.co.uk if u do walk, maybe they'll try and work something out with u, and if not then there are plenty of helpful dealers on there who can secure you a car at bargain prices anyway, and...

capicsum red is the trophy ultra red is on the 197 and r26 which is it?

i've personally settled on just a remap. relatively cheap, makes car much more driveable low down. improves econmy and the kangarooing a bit too. end of the day, its a new car so you dont wanna go nuts and screw up the warrenty. you're never gonna see a massive power gain without big...

rs tuning in leeds. they supplied the ktec one. yes, its very good. gives a bit more poke low down, improves driveability. not much gains at top end, maybe a little bit. also, improves the kangarooing/cold running a bit too.

the 197 circle is pretty pants too. tbh, i think it mite not be too bad, but because they're small cars, you just psychologically expect them to be miles better.

a lot of ppl who've had the RS Tuning remap reckon its made it a lot better. not a total cure, but much better all the same.

lol. is it meant to be a joke advert, cos the guy who wrote the description seems to be just taking the mickey out of his potentisl buyers... unusual tactic that...

the photoshop looks the nuts. turinis go with everything!

i wish k-tec would hurry up with their version. saw a pic of the prototype one and it looked sweeet.

are they bright then? might consider one....

yeah, u mite be lookin at an old issue... because that was a 182 cup which the r27 was quicker than. this is the latest one, not in the shops yet. only subscribers have got it so far i think.

EH??? The 182 they used was a TROPHY!!!! not a cup! it was a 197 cup.

2 years or 18k miles IIRC.

PMSL! Brilliant quote!!!

It was the JDM one though.... much better than the limp wristed effort we get over here. It would have been quicker still but the Civic only had 30 miles on the clock!!

^^^ it is The CUP that they use! can't comment about the trophy, but personally i still think i'd be able to corner quicker in my R27 than my old 182. the grip is just immense!

the 197 is 0.2 secs slower than the trophy. say that it isn't as adjustable which hampers it. interesting how the 197 was quicker on the old circuit than both 182 cup and trophy, but this time round it struggled. both got whipped by the JDM Civic Type R tho which is a monster!

just buy an aux lead which u can plug into the back of the headunit. costs £7 off ebay. u have to control it from your ipod though.... but cheapest solution.

just look for the ugly black washer jets in front of the lights. if it has them, it has xenons iirc. its possible to have auto lights without xenons... u can check this by looking at the indicator stalk. Look at the end of the tip... if u can press it down it switches auto lights on and off...

well... i only got £500 off my R27 on 0% finance, but this was a year ago when they first announced the r27 so i guess thats not much help for you. sorry.

oh.... and some cars with auto-lights have had issues with the dash lights going blank at night. don't think there's a fix.. and you can't really test it i guess..... usually cures itself if u turn the car off then on again though. some xenons have had issues with the adjuster breaking and...

u should get a better deal if u payin cash.... if u want 0% finance, don't expect much of a discount....

If you're looking at a LY, make sure you check the paint very very closely. There have been plenty of horror stories about LY not matching on all the panels..... the other colours haven't had much of an issue. RE: the rattles, think its really luck of the draw. My car feels as good and...

clio197.net has a register. JT said the info is coming soon..... iirc, LY is pretty much the most popular. nimbus and black are the rarest i think.

IIRC, kwik fit had an offer on recently for a £45 regas, and if u didn't feel the difference, you didn't have to pay! suppose u could go, get it done, then claim u felt no difference? ;)

i'm on 12k miles and can't believe some of you are gettin 35mpg! even if i drive like a ponce, i still only get 31 maybe 32 tops!