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with the exception of the seats, really not a fan of the interior. maybe i'm not used to it, but the speedo etc strikes me as being a bit hard to read. steering wheel looks ugly. what did u think of the gearknob? when i tried one, it struck me as being one of the most uncomfortable ones i've...

it doesn't really help when dealers are chucking out brand new 197 cups at £12.5K and ppl wonder why renault residuals are shot to buggery. i'd go for about 11k on that car and spec.

i'd agree that a 197 is more fun to drive than a Vee. The 197 has more 'chuckability' factor whereas the Vee is more of a measured and controlled experience, where you're very aware of the weight over the rear and are more delicate with your inputs. but the sense of occasion in a Vee can't...

i kno where u coming from warren. as a ex 182 owner (now 197 owner) the 182 excited me more in certain situations, the experience was a lot rawer. depends what u want from a car. If u crave ultimate grip then the 197 is brilliant. The 182 was more edge of your seat... Would i go back to...

^^^^ lol, dunno. it ws travelling in the opposite direction to me. i only noticed it cos of the stand-out colour and the smart white wheels. looked very cool tho.

Saw a racing blue (i think) on the M62 yesterday with white wheels. anyones on here? it was about 6.30-7.00ish

what about the Ph1 172 Exclusive only available in scarab green and i think it had leather too and different alloys. only 172 were made as well IIRC

you should have had him easily. the 197s are about as quick as the PH2 1.2 16v's. according to some on here anyway.....

probably a manual. a dsg one comes in under 7 seconds. the dsg ones are rapid cos along with launch control and perfect upshifts each time, they're pretty tuff to beat from the line.

get a FF with cup pack. the FF has a much nicer steering wheel!

i've heard one and they sound absolutely sensational. have heard that it can be a bit of a faff to fit tho. apparently need to remove part of the suspension, or u have to cut it or sumat? let us kno how u get on.

i'm not sure about MK4s, cos i remember my mate who used to work for VW tellin me that MK5 prices are very cheap because VW specifically designed it so that panels, parts etc.. can be replaced very cost effectively. i dunno if that applies to mk4s or not. however, a few friends who own VAG...

in my experience, i've always found VW much cheaper than i expected. i had to do a rebuild on the front end of a MK5 Golf, and all the bits and bobs including a new front bumper etc only came out at abt £300 total which i thought was very reasonable. no experience of renault, but have heard...

not really a good time to be selling now. credit crunch... ervyone is saving or at least cutting back.

i think its dependant on spec sometimes. did u order recaros? have heard of some issues with parts supply for them.

oh yeah. the old s3 had a 1.8t, the new one has a 2.0t and the 3.2 v6 is totally different model. i reckon he's lookin at 3.2 v6 quattro...

if it didn't have that stupid spoiler it wouldnt be too bad i guess.....

surely it can't be a NEW SHAPE S3 if its on a 54 plate??????

looks great! love these cars. only thing i don't like tho are the standard alloys, just dont look special enough for what the car is. i'd have to have a set BBS CHs i reckon. oh and is the black grill an option or u do it yourself? looks sooo mean like that!

imo, if u r considering a 197, u'd be better off going as cheap and cheerful as possible. on cars like these, there's no point going for "fully loaded". Cup in white with recaros and maybe A/C...... all you need!

what is he using to meausre his speed? if its just his speedo i wouldn't trust it because they always over read slightly, and when u get to speeds of 150, the over reading factor is gonna be bigger.

hope u enjoy it. so is your lexus gonna be your weekday workhorse and the 197 your weekend play thing?

good to hear! they are ridiculously quick; i remember when i first sat in one... knew it ws gonna be quick, but didn't realise that quick!! what about the latest JDM Civic Type R? I'd have one were it not for the extornionate insurance costs on japanese imports!

nah, doubt it'll be extreme as that. but autocar mentioned it at the start of the year. There will be a final final fling for the current shape Megane, similar in execution to the Clio Trophy in limited numbers.

Bargain! :rasp: Just think how much u'd have to spend on gettin that gain out of a N/A car.

i'm gonna wait and see if this "Ultimate" Megane R26 ever emerges. Hopefully it'll gain cult status like the Clio Trophy. if it don't, a remapped BMW 3 series diesel probably!

is that baby blue the same as racing blue? either way, its my new favourite V6 colour!

nice! what are those remapped NM figures in ib ft please? been thinkin bout gettin one of these for work. is your car on run flats? hows the ride? looks a bit underwheeled on 18s imo, but dont really wanna go for 19s if they cripple the ride. did ya get a good deal on it? or did the...

i thought the same up until very recently when they had a cup in RB at the dealer. looked much nicer with the anthracite alloys

aren't the disesel engines usually quite a bit heavier than their petrol counter-parts? don't really want any more weight in the clio, and might be a bit nose heavy?