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Dont do anything for me.

What yer maun said ^^^^ I have a full fat 172 and love it. But given the choice, Id probably pickt the Cup for the Colour.

BenR, your lazy.... In fact, if you get ben to do some manifold magic and some head work, that may save a few grams and add some power!!

the specific gravity of champagne is higher than water Yoz.... so dont have too much on board!!

The 182 is a better car in general terms, but unless you can get one dirt cheap and get a good price for you r172, Its not worth the cash imho. Youd be better off improving the suspension and tweak the engine a little on your current car.

15s were standard on the Aussie cars iirc... the 195/45 16 dont meet there load requirements

My old man got £2600 for whiplash. Hes in the Maldives spending it atm.

CTR is a cracking motor. nearly bought one when I got the 172. Just couldnt get my head around the way it looks, or the poxy steering. Theyre not as shy of torque out of VTEC as some people seem to think. Very useable at lowish revs imho, and I thought it handled pretty well - less twitchy...

RTFM

Ace. :D

Nope. After market. Genuine renault part. PM Mike172Sport. hes selling them at £8 - Renault want about 12 iirc!! They used to be £2!!

Aye, its a double jobby, sounds quite meaty....:oops:

Well said that man. It does appear though that the good Cups are quite a bit quicker than the good 172s.... Most standard good Cups get what, 14.5s on th 1/4 from whst Ive seen on here.... whereas the good 172s get 14.7/8, so theres definitely a difference. As Mark correctly states though, on...

Sorry fella, you raise some interesting points, but your talking b****cks. yes there is a difference. On paper the Cup is faster. In the real world, these cars are so varied in power straight from the factory that it just depends on whether or not you get a good one. My 172 used to slowly creep...

They are operated if you spray your windscreen wash whilst your lights are on. And they make a fycking right mess.. lol.

Has, you car is lovely. A mate of mine had those light covers on his Cup, and they didnt suit it tbh.... but yours loooks mint imho.

Less atm, but that will change in a few years time imho.. As big a deal as the Cup may be to people on here, to joe-public its just a cheap version...

i aways though they were 280mm vented discs...

Theyre f**king useless eben if theyre aimed in the right place. If a high pressure hose cant shift the bugs on my headlights, what chance have those farty little things got? I could piss faster!!

How accurate are these G-tech things?

I think there must have been some kind of VX meet a few months back as about 5 of them drove through my village. They look absolutely stunning imho, and Id pick one over a Cup any day of the week. Im considering one for my next car.... Oh and first dibs on the engine cover Jay!!

My 172 does too... allthough only if its been sat ideling for a bit though.

sh*t.Unlucky. Martin + lack of knowledge = Owned..;)

Not true. My missus drives a Clio and shes as rough as owt. Proper gearbox lifter Ill tell thee.

Lol @ refurb. Not even Fred could refurb that!! Fooked is not the word!!

Possible earth fault? Car electrics certainly do some funny things. As KDF says, its probably a fault from the rear of the car. Check as much of th wireing as you possibly can. Other than that, I take there is some kind of UCH/computer that controls these functions.... could have bee damaged...

Sit tight then bad, hes right Ill tell thee!! I though the same, mainly because I preferred the Cups colour. In the end, I gave my 172 the Cup look for a total cost of about £250. Sold my 172 wheels, bought some Turinis, bought a Cup splitter of a mate for £20 and a Cup spoiler for £170...

brand new about £175..... you might be lucky and get one second hand, but they are like hens teeth second ahnd...

Good effort for your first shop dude.... only problem with making cars look like they are moving from a still pic, is that your car has no driver!! Easiest way out of this is to tint the windows...

The 182 Cupped/Cup are an improvement over the 172, but not much. I considered the change, but after test driving one, and working out how much money it would cost, I decided it simply wasnt worth it. And I hate the cosmetic changes like the seatbelts, seats and headlight covers. And I dislike...