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I like my sunroofs...so it would have to be a 3 for me!:D

Do you still have the family of F4R turbo engines in your garage Joe?

Id like to have both...but then I also want a Williams, V6, 5 GT Turbo, old Scooby RB5, 205 GTi 1.9...the list goes on.

Thats odd. My alternator lasted until 93k miles. Renaults obviously arent built like they used to be!;)

I had some fun giving an old Audi 80 S2 (not RS2) some serious legs on that same straight! Had a wonderful summer, me and my motor, in and around Edinburgh. That straight isnt the smoothest of roads though!

I like my sunroofs...so it would have to be a 3 for me!:D

Do you still have the family of F4R turbo engines in your garage Joe?

Id like to have both...but then I also want a Williams, V6, 5 GT Turbo, old Scooby RB5, 205 GTi 1.9...the list goes on.

Thats odd. My alternator lasted until 93k miles. Renaults obviously arent built like they used to be!;)

I had some fun giving an old Audi 80 S2 (not RS2) some serious legs on that same straight! Had a wonderful summer, me and my motor, in and around Edinburgh. That straight isnt the smoothest of roads though!

;) That was a special occasion ;)

Williams: 0-60 in 7.7, 30-70 in 6.9, top whack 133. 16: 0-60 in 7.7, 30-70 in 7.1, top whack 130. The Williams is quicker to a greater degree than the figures here would suggest due to a flatter torque spread that the 16v.

Cupsize - you seem to have a very nice 1.6 there. I dont for a moment question that your experience with your mates 16v is valid, but would ask what condition that particular 16v is in. The book acceleration and in-gear times for an old 16v are very fast - much better than most modern hot...

I do about 55-60 in the slow lane with the slow traffic a lot of the time - especially if the traffic is heavy. You dont get irritated by lane hoggers and you save fuel. I think the "optimum" speed for a Clio 16v with engine work is either about 55-60mph or 90mph on the motorway - the noise...

;) That was a special occasion ;)

Williams: 0-60 in 7.7, 30-70 in 6.9, top whack 133. 16: 0-60 in 7.7, 30-70 in 7.1, top whack 130. The Williams is quicker to a greater degree than the figures here would suggest due to a flatter torque spread that the 16v.

Cupsize - you seem to have a very nice 1.6 there. I dont for a moment question that your experience with your mates 16v is valid, but would ask what condition that particular 16v is in. The book acceleration and in-gear times for an old 16v are very fast - much better than most modern hot...

I do about 55-60 in the slow lane with the slow traffic a lot of the time - especially if the traffic is heavy. You dont get irritated by lane hoggers and you save fuel. I think the "optimum" speed for a Clio 16v with engine work is either about 55-60mph or 90mph on the motorway - the noise...

Read the "Which Williams?" thread for moding advice for the Willy. Same deal as the 16v really - major expense for real power!

My God Joe! Havent you ever seen a 16v in the flesh? Well, actually, if youve seen a Willy then thatll do... Yup, 1.8 was a convenient engine size, and an off-the-shelf job from the 19 16v. But theres no doubting that in 1990-1992 Renault were running a N/A 1.8 for their Group A rallying...

But UK firm TWR have been doing some of the develpoment...

I like it. But I love the Avatime (2-door coupe/concept car thingy). Im going to wait for the inevitable savvage depreciation to set in and then pick up a minter in three years time. I also think the Vel Satis and new Espace look fab. I really like the way Renault is going with the...

Read the "Which Williams?" thread for moding advice for the Willy. Same deal as the 16v really - major expense for real power!

My God Joe! Havent you ever seen a 16v in the flesh? Well, actually, if youve seen a Willy then thatll do... Yup, 1.8 was a convenient engine size, and an off-the-shelf job from the 19 16v. But theres no doubting that in 1990-1992 Renault were running a N/A 1.8 for their Group A rallying...

But UK firm TWR have been doing some of the develpoment...

I like it. But I love the Avatime (2-door coupe/concept car thingy). Im going to wait for the inevitable savvage depreciation to set in and then pick up a minter in three years time. I also think the Vel Satis and new Espace look fab. I really like the way Renault is going with the...

Hmmm...I kind of see where youre coming from. But if youd seen my Valver, and many other absolute minters that have been pampered, then you might get a different impression! Most 16vs and Williams are run by true hot hatch enthusiasts and their condition will reflect that. They are...

Hmmm...I kind of see where youre coming from. But if youd seen my Valver, and many other absolute minters that have been pampered, then you might get a different impression! Most 16vs and Williams are run by true hot hatch enthusiasts and their condition will reflect that. They are...

Just get one. Youll not regret it. They dont come up very often, so have a look at Bens (djmcfish). Minter by all account. Only 1200 in UK in total.

Do you mean a choice between the Clio 91-96 Clio 1.8 16v (konwn as 16v or Valver) and a 98-00 1.6 16v (later RSi)? If thats the case, then youre really looking at two totally different kettle of fish. The Clio 16v was developed from Group A rallying - where Renault Sport still holds the...