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Where you based d6n?

Not at the moment:(

Comparison with my brothers There's no doubt the ph2 is more modern looking. But at 3K, you're more likely to get a decent ph1 than a ph2. And the ph1 is the better drive imo. (That's not owner bias, I sold a ph2 172 to get the ph1)

Which coilovers you going for?

If you saw that in the pitlane you'd think -He's most likely wearing a shell suit -He's a twunt.

Ph1 at that price.

At least.

EFA ;)

I think that's where I don't get most modern hot hatches tbh.

TBF Jay, by all accounts you don't do many miles? When you do 20-30k miles a yr, and several track days, I think you get a bit more picky/fussy/anal about the bits that are important to you. (That's not a dig, just a genuine observation). I do think it's a shame they cocked up the looks so...

Why bother though?? The rear brakes don't contribute much, seems a bit pointless.

The major bits that I found dissapointing in the 197 (lack of low down grunt and the crap steering) have been tweeked for the 200. I went to Renault with the intention of buying a 197. Never been so dissapointed with a hot hatch, got the bits that I care about wrong (IMO). I couldn't care...

It's personal preference at the end of the day. Not a fan of the 197, but I want a go in a 200. Still ugly, I mean really hideously ugly though.

Only happened since I started using my new laptop. When playing music (especially playlists) some tracks don't play correctly. One song finishes, then the next starts a minute or more into the song?

Re: iPhone "must have" apps? It's good, but needs 3G signal to function well in my experience. And when you can watch the race using TVcatchup, seems a bit pointless now.

Rubbish plate. L3VOM is the best real plate I've seen, lad on here.

Only in this country is skill so undervalued.

Brilliant! The lads still digging!

Looking forward to seeing it on Friday, the work so far looks excellent.

Flol! I will drive over with £8200 right now. f**king clowns. Great advert, with all the work done is does stand out.

Makes my piss boil that you've been such a c**t, trying to sell a fucked car to members while lying through your teeth. Makes me wet myself with laughter that you've been stupid enough to post the problems on the forums. The forum, that the people you're trying to sell it to, frequent. Epic...

Is it ph1 or 2? The both need different hub adaptors and the ph1 only needs one airbag resistor.

On a Monaco? Amphasite exploding into blue.

Not really. To suggest one is much better, would suggest a clear difference in them. Having used them both on track, there isn't. Which suits you better is of course personal preference. But in terms of outright performance there's fack all in it.

What mileage is it on? Colour? Has it had the belts service done?

I'd drive a minter beforehand to compare. It could be a dog, or it could be that people have gone for it as it's cheap without considering insurance and running costs. How cheap?

If it has cc, it has ac. But you can have ac without cc (the 182cup and the ph1 172 has this setup).

The carbon lorraines are not miles better. I'm running them now. Outright stopping power and fade, there's nothing in it. They make more noise than the ferodo, rattle and squeal. But they fit a bit easier. On balance, I'll go back to ferodo next time.

Regarding the op, yes there will be a difference. The car with cc will be slightly slower.

Didn't realise you could have cc without ac.