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Try an R26 then go from there. No doubt the 197 looks better, how important that is, is up to you. Doesn't bother me at all, it's a hatchback at the end of the day, there are plenty of coupes etc that are far better looking than any hot hatch, all IMO.

Take a picture and post it up, someone will be able to tell you.

Less of man. Erm, doubt it. I'd imagine the slight build and tiny penis would take care of that.

tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!

Amazing, you fucked up twice.

I still haven't.

All resolved young Arab. Mine's far from hardcore TBH, just had the AC regassed FFS!

Not AFAIK

The only fucker is I now need another steering wheel FFS.

I've always been a GT lover, had every one thats been released. Although the graphics aren't great on FM2, the gameplay and physics are a lot better than the GT series. Obviously FM3 adresses the graphics issue. I'll still buy GT3 in 2013, but it will have to be a massive update from prologue to...

I just don't like the colour at all. Too feminine.

I'd love to drive a Trophy back to back with mine once it's been set-up correctly.

The suspension travel isn't great on the 1*2's, springs just reduce that. Would be pointless on the Trophy to lower it on springs, goes against the whole purpose of the Sach's!

I've only had it for 1 day, but turned off all the driving aids bar ABS. I find it more difficult to adapt if I'm used to the driver aids.

Thats not a cup. It has cup packs.

Stunning. Best standard car I've owned by a mile, Trophy no 498. Enjoy it, I'd be tempted to get a pre-emptive damper rebuild.

Looks good fella. Agree with you on not spending cash on it, it'll never be a car you love, may as well bank the cash and get something epic at a later date. Wouldn't go for a 360 though, they really do feel old next to the new gen (Gallardo, 430, R8 etc) and they aren't quick enough. The...

Very heavy as well iirc?

Not sure I'd go for that, but I doubt I'll ever get an Iphone. Can't stand the f**king things.

I've got T1r's on the 172's. Good in the dry, poor in the wet. They wear quickly, and the wet weather grip fades badly with grip. They were cheap, but I think I'll go back to F1's next time.

Suspension damage most likely means a write off on a Trophy. Hope everyone was ok!

No one that owns a car is going to come on here and say it's not good. No one. Ergo anyone that owns one will say it's the better car. As I said in my original post, 197's the better all rounder, 182's more fun. IMO. I've driven plenty of 197's, and I'm getting a 200 for a day as soon as the...

The price to change is the important figure.

Feels different within 10secs. Such a well sorted standard set-up. I will have one again.

Do some research. The cost of rebuilding the Trophy shocks is no greater than replacing the dampers on a 182. Dampers can and will fail on any car,the Trophy's no different.

If a Trophy's an option, I wouldn't bother looking at basic 182's.

Not forgetting that the op didn't ever mention the Williams.

Depends. If you're planning coilovers etc then of the cars mentioned the PH1 would be the best bet. Cheaper, pretty much the same weight as a cup, better throttle response. I know there are several junior Senna's on here, but the lack of ABS on the cup has always made it a non-starter for me...