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But the BMW and mini did not need to give their brand identity a boost with those cars. They were already selling more cars than they could make. However Rsport was in a bit of a hole with the 197 and the megane being good but not great cars. The .R did so much for the brand of Rsport.

The .R was different and was something "a mainstream" company hadnt done with their cars. Everyone was pushing power figures to prove a point. There are many off shoots of the VXRs that i would say were more of a fail because the .R had all the publicity. It did more for the brand that the R27...

Agree with Naith You can compare them.

Not always true. Take the Veyron for example. There was no money in it for VW. R26R was never going to sell huge amount but i got huge publicity for the brand.

Yeh but its a automatic, Weve had the car 3 years now and its piss poor. My Dad has a C5 and thats got a standard auto box in it. Which is 10 times better. Why they didnt use a similar box i have no idea. Its just a dog compared to the Furio and VTS. I hate it, but if your happy :)

IMO the R wasnt a fail, it but Rsport in all the mags/TV shows. It did good things for the brand and it also put Rsport on the top of the Hot hatch table it also did a little damage to the Focus RS launch (i love the RS). Doubt they will do another R for a couple of years though. I think the...

VTS = Good car VTR = terrible car My mam has a VTR and i have never driven a car that is so bad the gear box is terrible, even with all the updates. Gear changes delay :@ and the car selects odd gears :@ Why any one would buy one as a warm hatch i have no idea. I hope you got it really cheap...

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We may have something that needs doing, need to make it fit first though.

Awaits Hutchie :sleepy: ....... Save your cash.

If you live in the South Tour-De-force, if you live north RStuning :D

200 Loved the one i test drove felt 10X better than my 182 so guessing it feels 7x better than a trophy.

Entry lever coilovers, the Raceland ones in the other thread or KTR ones. Or as above sportlines, but they have very little drop. Apex lower more but the ride isnt ment to be very good.

The Dark Grey (anthracite) wheels came on the cars with suspension Cup pack. Suspension + spoiler cup packs

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/?CallFunction=ShowSpecification&ItemID=16968 Something like that.

They are not to hard to paint. If you found a spare set, just in case you messed up. Can either paint them fully that try to do the lettering by hand. Or use a liquid mask on them to mask the writing off. They do look good though.

point proven :rolleyes:

I dont think its that anyone is jealous. I think its more the way your posts are constructed. If your original post made sense and you came across as a decent lad who was serious about doing the conversion. You would have got a different response. But you come across as a 17 year old who is a...

Sportlines are better than Apex, they are not as low however.

Theres not a great deal of point though, when you can Turbo the Clio F4R and get decent power. The Fabrication would be pretty big to put the 225 gear in, so just make more sense to turbo/charge the clio engine. I d like to see someone attempt it though.

http://www.cliosport.net/forum/showthread.php?t=483098&page=2 Don't smash up a RB please.

There are plenty of other cam manufactures JMS were working on something. with C&B Just a note dont forget to add a live remap to the cost when looking for cams. so +250 - 300 quid.

Its had alot done but i dont believe the BHP claim reading the spec, and he may get 10K in parts, if he was to split it and but the car baack to standard.

BHP wises very little. which is expected of a NA engine However the the map is a good map, the "driveabilty" will improve and the 5K kick will be smoother. The Rstuner is also capable of doing diagnostics which is very useful, if you dont want to keep it you can have it unlocked and sell it...

My car has been mapped with the 98 ron map, so to has my brothers. Loads on the forum have used it. If you decided to get one follow read the instructions fiirst like most on here seem not to then start a thread about all the problems.

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You missed, Learn to drive. Get tuition Have you upgraded brakes/suspension first. Being serious if you really feel the need for the extra power go ahead. Its not my money. But have you found the limits of the 172 cup.

Yeah it was in that area. Yeah Was probs the same one on the way back :D

very pricey, Trophy money TBH. Belts been done on it, id hope for that price.

its a cup.