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Maybe but still not a better car I've seen 04/05 plate examples that look far worse than my old 02 plate shed !

Ignore all this 182 business..10bhp doesn't make it that much of a better car plus al of newer cars can be in worse conditions than older ones anyway.....all depends on owners etc. If it's a really good car I'd offer £6.500 for it....definately factor in the cambelt costs as it will need doing.

Nice one....look forward to seeing the pics

I agree....a lot of so called 'chavs' are builders, plasterers etc who we all know charge ludicrous prices per hour and choose to work whenever they want. At the end of the day though you can never buy your way out of a culture/class hence why the above types go straight for the obvious...

Welcome to CS :D

Welcome to CS:D

You'll never ever leave CS lol Only a matter of time before you get fed up with people asking questions about what pipe and induction kit to fit to their old Civic to make it sound more 'sporty' lol

If you want to do the job properly the best thing to do is to remove the bumper then fit it...that's what I did and it didn't take too long

F**k this....I'm selling up

Welcome to CS Get some pics up of your 197

Shame to hear that:(

Totally agree The Mk1 is without a doubt the first step into Clio RS/chav ownership....anyone saying it the Mk2 is talking BS

You can't say that one here....the new CTR is the best thing since sliced bread.....or was that the outgoing model

Has to be done sometimes.....at least you can say you've owned one :D

Welcome to CS With that budget I'd go for a Mk1 172

Had 45mpg out of mine yesterday on the motorway....cheap motoring:D

If you can find someone who will insure you at 20 Clio 172/182 may look dated but goes well and is cheap to run...still think insurance will keep a lot of scrotes out of the picture though.

Totally...the 197 is a lovely looking car up close

Good work....looks pretty sweet:D

Dislike the Fiesta....probably not a bad drive but looks real cack

197 will blow them all away in looks and performance:D

18bhp....must be pretty chuffed with that:D

lol beat me to it:D

Mad plan at 24 but good luck with it....TVRs are brutal, have to be careful in the wet;)

lol V6 will be a classic for sure....rare as fook even now and a real extravangant motor car:D Agree with you to some extant Baldylocks...the Golf was the first of it's 'breed' I suppose which does set it apart froma lot of other classics.

It'll happen...look at all the old Ford RS models from the late 70/80s being pampered now and being sold for big money

Actually, I correct myself...some cars don't even have to be good to be 'classics', look at some of the junk out there that has got that status lol

Classics become classics because a) they are good cars in the first place and b) because there are fewer around in good condition (like antiques) so are therefore more sought after. Trophy is a 'limited' car so even if it's a tarted up 182 it'll still be desirable in the future as the numbers...

And so will your new civic one day....I can just see that sitting in a scrapyard in the rain with an old Mk2 Clio on top of it's roof lol

Not necessarily....lots of Clio 172/182s will be brought by scrotes & written off so good ones will become rarer & rarer.